Brett Lorenzo Favre is Mr. 310!
Brett Favre is Mr. 310!
Brett Lorenzo Favre is Mr. 310!
Brett Favre Career Interception Record Watch
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Brett Lorenzo Favre is Mr. 310!
***Breaking News!
On December 9th, 2007 versus the Oakland Raiders, Lorenzo completed a pass to Raiders safety Stuart Schweigert extending his amazing interception record to 284! Thanks for playing hurt yet again Favre!
Interesting Favre interception fact: Favre is currently tied for second place in total career playoff interceptions thrown with 26 (Terry Bradshaw has 26 and Jim Kelly has 28). While throwing three interceptions to gain the top spot would likely only take Favre a single game, getting to the playoffs again to have the chance is the true challenge, especially with Favre at the helm. Let’s hope for at least a wildcard loss to give Favre the one game he needs!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
BRILLIANT JASON, JUST BRILLIANT!!!!
And Brett “Mr. INT” Farve almost has the record in nearly a 100 less games then Blanda is hilarious!!!
Though if we go through the “Brett Farve Retirement Watch” again like they did all last year (See the “Brett Farve Holds News Conference To Announce He Hasn’t Made Up His Friggin Mind”), I hope you keep track of that too.
I don’t get that. Last off-season Farve didn’t answer if he was retiring or not all the way up till nearly Training Camp/Pre-Season. Had I been a Packer fan, I would have been pissed with Farve’s indecisiveness. Either retire so the Packers as an organization can move on or firmly state that you’re coming back. If I recall correctly, Barry Sanders announced his retirement just before Training Camp started. Man, were the Lions fans, especially season ticket holders pissed about that, and I didn’t blame them one bit.
I guess these Farve fans need to decide too. They need to decide if they are “Brett Farve Fans” or are they “Green Bay Packer” fans.
Comment by Warren Adams — January 3, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
hey fucker your pretty dumb
howbout you make a page on the brett favre career touchdown passes record watch cuz if you havent noticed hes like 5 away and he has almost 200 more touchdowns then interceptions
im a favre fan and a packer fan favre plays for the packers they both fit dipshit we want favre to play and dont care how long it takes him to make up his mind you dumb son of a bitch howcome you stopped commenting on the other page cause you realized you were beat and everybody proved your bullshit comments wrong
nobody cares if he sets the interception record cause he comes back im almost 100% sure he’ll break the int record and td record but if he has the td record who cares about the int record im also 100% sure the int record is easier to break then the td record so the TD record will most likely stand for a while but the int record will most likely be broken
and one more thing warren adams and jason jeffery you guys are competing by yourselfs do you know how many people are against you and think you are the dumbest bitches on the internet posting all these dumb blogs that arent totally thought through
get some help and look into the real facts
Comment by marcus — January 3, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
Bravo Marcus…I couldn’t have said it better myself. As an avid Packer and Brett Favre fan I agree 100% with everything you said. And, by the way, I loved your expletives when referring to these two assholes.
Comment by Sharon — January 13, 2007 @ 10:26 am
your an asshole
brett favre is one of the greatest quarterbacks of alltime and if he comes back next year he could break the touchdown record you dick. So who gives a shit if he throws interceptions that just means he likes to take risks and alot of times it pays off.
Comment by Brody — January 20, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Yeah these guys are retards. So what if Favre breaks the record for ints. He’s the best thing to happen to the NFL in the last 25 years. I wish more players give it there all when behind instead of protecting their stats. I wish more players would shut their mouths and do their jobs. He’ll probably have the td record as well as the most wins by one QB ever! He throws hard to. How many passes have hit the receivers only to be deflected and picked. The fact that he has almost as many as Blanda in 100 less games is laughable as they throw the ball much more often in todays game. Do you idiots know anything about football. Hell your probably raiders fans! Have fun watching us make the playoffs next season.
Comment by Tim Mullens — January 22, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Um, actually, yeah, I can see Brett “Ah-Crap-I-Threw-Another-INT” Farve setting pretty much most of the passing records, after all, he has been playing for quite sometime.
BUT all Farve’s records (wins, TDs, complitions, etc.) will be quickly broken by Payton Manning in the years to come. The one lone record Manning won’t break? THE CAREER INT RECORD!!!!
So Farve, like so many other high stat QB’s will fade into obscurity as time marches on. The lone footnote that future generations will be able to judge Mr. Farve on? “Most Career Interceptions” Future generations will be asked who Brett Farve was and they’ll repond “Brett Farve? Who the hell was that?” When told of the one lone record that INT-Boy has, the future generations will say “He’s got the Most Career Interceptions ever in the NFL? That guy sucked!”
Alas, the falling of an idol, worshiped by many a frostbitten Packer-backer for a decade and a half prooves to be…a false idol. Sad, sad, sad, so sad.
And you know its true! Damn true! Just ask anyone under the age of 23 who Joe Thiseman was or Rogder Staubach or Terry Bradshaw. Hell, even ask them who Jim Kelly or Boomer Eisen was and I’ll bet you’ll get blank stares in return. Joe at least has 4 Super Bowl titles to add to his credibilty. Betty Farve has just as many Super Bowl titles as the mighty Trent Dilfer. But alas, Betty Farve will have one record that Mr. Dilfer will not have, “Most Career Intereptions” Future generations will shrug their shoulders at the fact that Trent won a Super Bowl. But they’ll give a resounding “That guy sucked!” when they hear of Betty’s Career INT Record. Heh heh heh.
Comment by Warren Adams — January 22, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
that was possibly the dumbest post you have posted yet warren but you keep em commin because its pretty funny when you just post your stupidy and idiotic comments all over the internet
manning will not break favres records he will not he is a failure and a choker he finally didnt choke in the afc championship game but lets see how bad it gets in the super bowl o howbout this one for you warren manning and favre both had thumb injuries right, so wont manning but hurting the colts chances of winning if he plays he’ll be “holding his organization hostage” according to you right, ya y dont u take that one and shove it up your dumbass, and if the colts dont win the superbowl they wont go back for awhile untill manning is retirerd.
and then when they say that he has the most interceptions in the nfl they will also say he has the most touchdown passes in the nfl
and fucker how old are you.. do you have any life… im 14 and you’ve been competing against me on this the whole time and i have completely been proving your non thought out comments to be bullshit… so anyways im under 23 right… ik her terry bradshaw,joe theisman, and rodger staubach is and im not even a huge fan of football i also know who boomer is. bradshaw also has 4 or 5 super bowls so shutup favre has a super and the touchdown record not yet but if he comes back he’ll get the td record and int record. favre has the same amount of super bowl victories as trent dilfer favre also has what..? 100 or so more td passes and 100 or so ints probobally too but umm let me ask you this.. how long has dilfer been a starter and how long has favre been a starter ya… thought so dipshit. mr “betty” favre will have 2 records that dilfer wont have most ints in nfl and also umm most tds in nfl
you really gotta stop man your embarresing yourself cmon now
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 22, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
how could you compare from back then to now?
better d right now than 50 years ago and to the first idiot that posted wtf? do you care if Brett retires or not(1 or 2 more years for Brett) is that an excuse for you not having a life?
Comment by get a life looser — January 23, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
warrrrrren my boy can we get real for a second please?? im 19 you ask me who any of those qb’s are ill spit out stats and accomplishments of all those guys. Kelly, Dilfer and Eisason*?(which you can’t even spell correctly)Why are these names even brought into an argument linked to Brett Favre? They couldn’t sniff his ass…If anything throw out Montana or Elway or someone else to make your argument legitament, I mean come on.”Betty Farve will have one record that Mr. Dilfer will not have….” as you go on to say interception record. But i believe i can think of a few more Dilfer won’t be sharing with Favre…hmmm let me think….well one i belive favre has 3 straight mvp’s only player ever to do so? righttt…Already has most completions…soon to have most td’s, wins,and perhaps most yards ever if he can post 3,862 yards this season. Favre will finish with over 260-70+ consecutive games played i believe an honorable record for ‘arguably’ the toughest position to play in all of sports…Trent dilfer had ‘arguably’ the greatest defense since ur boy Bradshaw’s steel wall. Lets not lose our heads and throw Dilfer’s name anywhere near Brett Favre’s…Is the satisfaction level really that high to sit at your computer chair and waste time bashing an individual who has been given a gift you nor any of us will ever share? Brett Favre is a legend that everyone should enjoy watching and should admire his toughness and passion for the game.
If Grossman wins this Sunday are you gona throw his name into the mix also Warren?
-Stay Gay Babe ;.)
Comment by Matt W — January 31, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Man, talk about missing the point. This wasn’t the broad side of barn door that was missed. This was the “Your aim is so bad, if you fell out of a boat, you’d miss the water” bad aim. Neil O’Donnel had better aim then you folks about this.
I’ll own up to the fact that you can’t compare my boy Trent Dilfer (anybody who has the balls to tell jackass Warren Sapp to not cuss around him gets an A in my book) to Betty Farve’s skill, talent, and stats. Betty wins by a huge margin…well at least in the stats department. heh. ;)
Let me put this in plain english…again. Yes, in 2008, Betty Farve’s name will be at the top of the career completions, TDs, wins, INTERCEPTIONS and whatever else. She’ll be the top dog in these things. But by the time Payton Manning finishes his career, Payton will more then likely surpass Betty in every stat except the CAREER INT record. At this point, Betty becomes the #2 guy in all of these stats. Just like now, FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL NOT CARE WHO THE #2 GUY IS ON A STATS LIST, except some loser, no life stat nerd.
Future generations will only read that Betty Farve won one Super Bowl and holds the career interception record. No one will care that Betty holds the #2 spot in career TDs, career wins, career completions, and whatever else. They will see that Dilfer won a Super Bowl too. But upon comparing the two, Future generations will see that Betty holds the career INT record and proclaim “That guy sucked.” Much how we today say that “that guy George Blanda sucked as a Quarterback.”
Comment by Warren Adams — February 1, 2007 @ 8:48 am
ok 1st ill say you stole the “you couldnt hit the water if you fell out of a boat” from madden ok.. but i guess we can give you credit sense your trying so hard.
alright on to more important things..
i really dont think peyton manning will pass favre in all these catagories and you know what would make it even sweeter is if manning loses the super bowl… something that mr.dilfer and mr.favre both have and manning wont,because again IF he loses i can guarentee he wont return with the colts.
oh and im guessing your one of these “loser no life stat nerds” because all you do is tell us all these stats that nobody cares about
AND peyton manning will NOT win 3 mvp awards like in your words “betty favre” so if manning does break all those records the future generations will read favre has the interception record AND 3 MVP awards AND a super bowl and dont use the excuse the packers had the number one defense cuz they had the number 1 offense too mostly because of who “brett (im gonna break the TD record) Favre”
MATT W is the man haha yes warren stay gay babe hahaha
and stop saying future generations are gonna say that guy sucked because nobody cares in this generation everybody knows in this generation that favre is amazing
when are you gonna stop warren i havent seen one guy on your side for like ever this has to be stressing for you where as for me its hilairious,whew im gonna have to tell my grandkids this one pretty sure they’ll be in the future generation i can tell them how god-like favre was
but seriously see a counselor or something
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 1, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
FINALLY!! Someone else recognizes how overrated Brett Favre is!!! He is the most overhyped player in the history of the league because of John Madden and idiot Packer fans (Tony Mandarich included).
God Bless whoever put this site up. Brett will break this record and exceed it by at least 10 int’s
Comment by Josh — February 1, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Yeah baby! He’s coming back!! Interception record, here we come!
Comment by JZ — February 2, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
This site is AWESOME. There is no more overrated player in the game than Favre. And few players are whinier than he. I can’t wait till he breaks the pick record. My guess is that he’ll own the record upon completion (no pun intended) of the fourth game of the 2007 season.
Comment by JPK — February 2, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
No wait guys, Brett Favre really is good . . .
For me to poop on!
Comment by Neil — February 2, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
I’m not a Packer fan or a Favre fan for that matter, but I do respect the fact that he can change the game on his own (for either team).
I used to live 30 miles south of G.B. and I’m telling you, from August to January nobody gives a crap about anything else going on in the world. 9/11/01 was merely the reason the packers weren’t playing that week. The point is, those people are 100% behind that team and anything that happens in the 3-blocks around Lambeau Field is a big deal.
That said, I think he’s actually hurting the team by coming back. They can’t make legitimate progress AS A TEAM until he decides to hang up the boots. He’ll get the TD record and nobody will care about the INT’s (except a few people) and he’ll feel really good about himself and so will other packer fans. I don’t see them becoing a significantly stronger team than they were this year, so he’s not coming back ‘to compete’…he’s coming back to get his ass spanked, get the TD record and move back to Mississippi head held high.
He should do that now and save us the agony of another season of ‘the last something #4 will something’.
Comment by msh — February 2, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Favre is the greatest quarterback of all time. People like you are just jealous of his success. I’ll bet you are a Viking fan, or another loser team that doesn’t know what winning is.
Comment by Jim — February 2, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Wow! I stumbled upon this website trying to confirm the first report. Interesting commetnts, though.
You are all missing the point though. Love or hate Favre, love or hate the Packers, it is a great thing for the NFL for Favre to come back. After all, the NFL is a business of entertainment. There aren’t many other football players as entertaining as Favre.
My opinion is the interception record and the TD record aren’t the ones that make any difference. The record that really tells me the most about a player is wins. This year, the QB wins record will belong to #4.
Comment by PW5000 — February 2, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
wow you guys are all demented as much as you can be…
especially neil jpk and jz there gonna say shit and not even back it up.. they dont even know whats going on and they say favre sucks really doesnt make sense to me so seriously dont say some1 sucks if your not going to explain why
atleast warren adams explains why he thinks he sucks (even though he may be completely wrong and seem stoned out of his fucking mind)
im not going to get into it if your wondering why im not backing myself up because i could if i wanted to but im just throwing out the fact of the losers mentioned above that dont even explain themselves how retarded they look even more so then warren
favre is the man one more year baby didnt take him to long to make the decision this time did it people didnt think so
Comment by joe — February 2, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
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Pingback by Favre will play in 2007 - Page 4 - Football Forum - NFL, CFL & College Football Forums — February 2, 2007 @ 9:22 pm
lol @ morons who can’t spell picking on the spelling of others:
“Eisason*?(which you can’t even spell correctly)”
You mean Boomer Esiason?
Perhaps it would be more “legitament” to criticize other’s spelling once you have your own down pat. Those in glass houses…
Comment by Bob — February 3, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Oh look, sportsfans, a website for VikQueens fans!
Can any of you even name the QBs for the VikQueens over the last 17 seasons? …oh, and the number of their Super Bowl wins?
LMFAO!
Cut me, I bleed green and gold
Comment by So Sueme — February 4, 2007 @ 9:51 am
i just have a question for jason jerffery
umm ya can you make a “Brett Favre career touchdown record watch” or will it be to much work
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 6, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
im gonna make a prediction on 2 records brett favre breaks
1st- all time interception record he will extend to 288
2nd- all time touchdown record
he will extend to 437
any1 else want to make predictions i just thought it might be appropriate
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 7, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
im gonna make a prediction on 2 records brett favre breaks this season
1st- all time interception record he will extend to 288
2nd- all time touchdown record
he will extend to 437
any1 else want to make predictions i just thought it might be appropriate
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 7, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
George Blanda – 26 NFL seasons completed 1,911 of 4,007 pass attempts for 26,920 yards and 236 touchdowns; kicked 335 of 641 field goals, and 943 of 959 extra points.
Just food for thought – Mr Blanda played over half his career as a kicker.
Brett Farve – In only 15 seasons (16 if you count the 2 games he got in to clean up Atlanta losses) Brett completed 5,021 of 8,223 attempts, for 57,500 yards & 414 TD’s – basicaly twice as ATTS/Yd’s/TD’s many as Mr Blanda and almost 3 times as many completions.
So if you want to compare numbers, then Mr Blanda threw as many INTs as Brett has in half the amount of attempts. Interesting? Yes.
But, Mr. Blanda also played in a totally diferent era of football: played in all 10 years of the AFL’s existence, he was one of three men who played in every game of the AFL’s longevity and was voted one as one of the top 100 professional football players of all time.
Soon Brett Farve will mentioned in the same category of longevity, record holder and the old school mentality for just doing your job as best you can every weekend and, in my opinion, the hell with people who don’t do their homework and can’t even spel !
Comment by Charlie B — February 8, 2007 @ 11:57 am
only one player has a higher TD vs INT differential in the history of the league (Marino at like +160 and some change)
If you play long enough to throw 414 TDs, you will play long enough to throw a lot of INTs.
By the way….. Mr October has the record for most Ks ever, and he isn’t know for his suckage…
Comment by JoeD — February 19, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
I say Fuck all of you motherfucking bear, and viking fans. Your all just jealous because you cant win a fucking superbowl, and that Favre kicks your ass every time he plays you. Grossmans a little fucking faggot, GO GREISE. If your a Detroit fan than I dont say anything because you’ll never win more than 3 games next season, and you’ll never find a quarterback, and neither will the Bears or the Vikings. Culpepper was the best you ever had and now he’s warming the bench in Miami!
Comment by Ian — February 20, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
I just want to say a couple of things here ok 1st is that if you compare the ratio of Dan Marino and Brett favre Marino has thrown 20+int in 15 season as Brett favre and always is in 4th barely behind so this forum states that he isn’t a great QB because of the interceptions and that all the greatness that Brett has brought to football can all be trashed because of 20ints or so I think that is extremely reckless and mis informed I think that people find reasons to hate him because he demoralized your team or maybe your tired of hearing what a stand up person he is what a team leader he is and sad (or jealous_) because your crummy QB doesn’t get that sort of attention your talking trash about a man that to many is the face of current football a man who plays the sport for the reason its meant to be played the fun the entertainment and the fact that you can say he’s not one of the 3 best is absurd he will hold 5-10 QB records at the end of this season he never gives up always plays injured and cares about the team and fans that support him I would have to say that some of these posts on here are out of rage per the post before then do you guys actually read stats do you watch games is there any thought process that goes along with your posts or is it to show everyone that your mother didn’t give you that last cookie or how much she loved your brother/sister more then you I can understand that you may not think he is the best and to many that may be so but to let your overwhelming feelings towards someone who has done nothing but good for this sport and its audience its fan etc. is once again childish misinformed and outright irresponsible in the fact that read a book check the stats get some old games and watch what really makes him great for a QB to come into a team with 20+ years of being the worst and then take them to playoffs every year with a new team every year then a superbowl only to have 1/2 the team traded and still continue to go to the playoffs is something some of your teams would only wish and wish again to have your jealous and I don’t think he is #1 but damn up there in top 3. also what QB makes blocks helps teammates in fights challenge defenses to attack him what in those lines isn’t great that gets them fired up helps them win and yes he threw allot of INT but they were warranted not accepted but hell if you had balls and played the game for the joy the competivness and heart you would to sorry that when there down by 7-21 in last couple minutes the man isn’t afraid to throw his records out and bomb tit or try and come back in a game that was to most QB’s gone that’s heart that’s why he is great all his records just complment them and these idiots people will only remember the INT you are stupid as can be as if people don’t remember everyone under DAN Marino and in fact there mentioned in this forum just because you run out of comebacks or rebottles and or you are proven to actually not really know anything doesn’t mean you say stupid things that have no backing at all like I said read a damn book pick up the newspaper maybe read ESPN.com do something other then trying to impose your selfish opinated thoughts on others in a group format and if you have something to day in return do so but please do some research and actually fund the ideas you believe with ammo so we can all learn a little something form you not become even worse off then when we started.
Sorry for the no breaks in the sentancea and i think 3 misspelled words if i remeber correctly i had a little time to write this before i had to go into a meeting(just so you know im from california not GB or the east)
Comment by BlackTar — February 21, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
bravo blacktar that was very nicely put you were correct on every subject
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 22, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Just so it is known that on average brett throws 1.3 Int a Game Payton 1.1 but at Peyton current avg. in 16 seasons he will have thrown for 300= Int at his rate not saying he is going to I just want to state it so you have an idea of who your comparing and when it comes to comparing the 2 you have to go ahead and use his stats now as and avg. to gauge where he will be in 6 yrs now with that said and if it happens which im sure there will be a lot that say no he wont do that he is to good I just want to point out 1/2 this stuff about Payton is that you are running avg. over the time and then spreading it out for the length of Brett’s and others career’s I just wanted to make it known a little research goes along way. By no means is this a put down to Payton its just avg.. career so far and projected stats based on a min that avg.. so hurry up get your I love Payton in now because according to this forum in 6 years he may have the the positive records but he will have the INT record and according to you people he is as good as garbage.
Comment by BlackTar — February 22, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
anything else to say warren?
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — February 25, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Everyone here is hilarious. I think the point of this website was to make the world realize that Favre is human. Everyone only talks about the good things he does but nobody mentions the fact that he does throw stupid interceptions and does make bad decisions. He is force fed to everyone through the media just like Tom Brady. This counter never says he’s not a great player. It just shows that he has flaws that get covered up and not everyone needs to worship him.
Comment by ha ha — March 6, 2007 @ 9:51 am
Your not very good at reading are you this website is made to bash him did you actually read it or listen to the video above please don’t make comments on something that sounds like your almost guessing and in regards to the media force feeding in my opinion they force feed the image of him not being very good and needing to retire I even mentioned his INT in my statement im sorry but I think you found a home here with warren in regards to not actually paying attn to what you read because you just pretty much got everything wrong in what you just wrote. I mean seriously one Question where do you draw the line of making him look human and bashing no one said he is god and lets see I think in here from supporters of favre we all acknowledge him as human so your saying if he didn’t have 2 seasons of bad INT he would be god?? im just checking seriously man you didn’t read anything or if you did you got only what you wanted to hear out of it right and also why are you looking at these sites if that’s what your going to come on and say really man what was the main goal of you stopping by here or is just that you decided that you would look up arguments on the subject do you have a opinion and yes he threw INT I gave you the Avg. above so do with what you like but don’t post HAHA and then make an ignorant statement like you did “this website was made to make him look Human” You probably and ANti-War protestor huh im against the war but im not numb to why it happen and what the intentions were.
Comment by lol — March 6, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
lol your a smart man oh yeah i would love to be able to convince myself like you do do you read the news or watch it th ee man is being critzed and cut down becasue of INT and the reason theres alot of stuff good about him is because he does alot of good there is a reason why so many like him and theres those that dont know the reason why they dont isnt a better or worse then the reason why so many like him the differnce is the amount of weight each side is and you can do math i think so you tell me has he done more good then bad or vice-versa
Comment by lol — March 6, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Before several Monday night and Sunday night games that Brett wasn’t even playing in they would play interviews with him. The team would talk about him and how many special things he’s done and how many bad things have happened in his life and how he’s overcome it. Its one thing to have an interview with him and play it before a game he’s playing in and to do that once during the year but there were several of these interviews. I’m not saying Favre isn’t a great player and hasn’t done great things. I’m saying that fans are obsessed with him and act like he is a God. I live in Wisconsin and a majority of the fans here are dilusional to the fact that he is old and on the decline. They are also dilusional to the fact that he can make mistakes. If he throws an interception everyone blames it on the receiver or the offensive line or write it off as Brett being Brett. Not many are willing to admit that he isn’t immortal on the football field.
Comment by ha ha — March 7, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
I understand that and it may be a whole differnt story for the rest of the contienet i dont see those and the interviews before monday or sunday i must have missed them as well ive seen some but usally after somethig happen to him but im sure most people know he is in decline but wont admit it i will admit he is not as good as he used to be and 1/2 that is his decline and sometimes bad decision but some is his recivers and some are the plays to me i think his INT are because of him trying to show hope (at the same time crushing it sometimes) but i think around 89% of INT come within the last 5-6mins of game trailing by more then 7 now i will say i have watch him throw green bay out of games but i have also 100x+ seen him throw grreen bay back in it i didnt mean to bash you or anything i understand your point of view and like i said there is nothing more right about what im saying as compared to you and i apolgize for the attack but this website was made to bash him i see hwat your syaing “to show he is human” i agree but not this website this website is made to bashand discredit so once again thanks for responding and apolgize if i came off as a dick
Comment by ok — March 7, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
I actually feel like it was created more to get a rise out of his fans than it was to bash him. I guess they go hand in hand though. The pedastal he gets put on is often ridiculous. I may get ripped for this but I don’t believe he is a top 5 quarterback of all time. He got his Super Bowl win and was able to get back but he didn’t get the job done. I would have to put others who have won multiple Super Bowls and put up regular season numbers ahead of him. I would say that Montana, Elway, Brady, Aikman, Unitas, & Starr are all easily ranked ahead of him. To me Favre would be in the discussion with Young & Manning (unless he wins more) and slightly above Marino & Tarkenton for the best all time. However many Packer fans insist he is the best ever without discussion. Either they lack knowledge of football history or they are very one tracked minded.
I also apologize for coming across strong on this issue but reading so many of the previous posts about how horrible this site is or how it was only created because the poster’s teams haven’t won super bowls is just homerism.
In all honesty what has Favre done since those 2 super bowl years? A few playoff berths and 2 or 3 playoff wins. He’s also thrown 6 & 4 interceptions in playoff games.
Many Packer Fans live too much in the past. I remember when the Vikings were 15-1 or the years they started 6-0 all Packer Fans would say is “how many super bowl rings do the Vikings have?”. That to me is like saying “The Vikings have never won a super bowl so I don’t expect them to ever”. The past is not the present and it shouldn’t be treated as though it is.
Brett Favre has done a lot of great things and he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame and he should be considered a great quarterback. Packer fans should always have hope that good things can happen when he is on the field but they also need to realize that its not Brett that is hated its the fans that cause people to do things like create this website.
Comment by ha ha — March 8, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Well said ‘ha ha,’ and for the most part I agree with your QB ratings. I’m not so sure about Aikman and Brady’s placement in the “all time” list, but to put Brett higher than either Montana, Elway, Unitas or Starr is ridiculous.
Truth be told, I created this page to get in a cheap jab at all of the Favre worshippers out there. They are easily riled up as you can see. It’s gotten so bad with John Madden, that if he’s announcing a game with the Packers I usually can’t bring myself to watch it. Madden’s fellating of Favre is a difficult thing to listen to for three hours. So the media is as much to blame for the Favre hatred as the fans they fuel.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — March 9, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
hey you mother fucker if I ever fucking see you I will beat the living shit out of you! thats not a threat thats a promise! if I ever I ever here you post another thing like this I will personally make your life a living hell, so just dont do it. we all know your a jealous piece of shit that probablly likes rex grossman and that means your a gay piece of shit
Comment by logan wenzel — March 16, 2007 @ 1:09 am
hey listen also you cant honestly say that aikmen bart starr or brady is honestly better than brett favre and if you do your a complete retard and thats not being biased you dont know the game of football and you dont respect the game. aikmen was good but not great, bart starr? are you kidding me? thats probablly the biggest joke of all you obviously dont know anything if you think he was better. brady too young to say that shit. what the hell makes him better? more super bowls? bradshaw won 4 no one thinks hes the greatest. so dont even go there. you have a case for elway unitas and montana and marino until brett beats his records then dont even go there because you dont have shit agianst after that, so fuck everyone that disagrees with me because if you do that just means your jealous simple as that so fuck you if you do
Comment by logan wenzel — March 16, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Logan Wenzel… how can I possibly respond to such a well thought out and grammatically correct attack that is backed up with so many statistics and facts? I bow to your superior wit and intellect sir.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — March 16, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
HA HA! Good one Jason.
Comment by Warren Adams — March 17, 2007 @ 7:29 am
wow… i mean favre is the greatest and all but… logan my man… just stop… your not helping the case at all, your just making yourself look like an idiot on the world wide web…
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — March 20, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
After ill I wrote I still will say your an idiot who probably out of everyone on here like favre our not probably knows the least amount about football I made the mistake of getting over excited and to that I kind of discredited myself so I felt obligated to come back and apologize for making uneducated post to put down someone else but man shut up your not a real fan your a fanatic and if I were brett I would watch out for you when im sleeping for fear of what a twisted fool like you would do to everyone favre like or hate good forum and other then I disagree with the title im glad it was made.
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I think they are Atlanta Fans who still haven’t gotten over that fact that they traded one of the greatest QB in the NFL for some Tony running back..The 1 sided lopsided mother of all TRADES.. LOL dont hate the man.. love him cause he wore your jersey at one point in time…. LOL
Comment by just a fan — April 27, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
After that TOTALLY AWESOME draft the Packers had, I’ll bet Betty Farve is real glad to be back to the Pack this year! Woo-hoo! I’m sure the Green Bay management used their draft picks to get Farve some help NOW! With their first pick GB got Farve a…Defensive Tackle?!?!?
Okay, maybe they got somebody for Farve to throw to via trade? NOPE! Randy Moss went to the Pats and the Pack got nobody.
FARVE SHOULD HAVE RETIRED!!!! NOW HE’LL LAY CLAIM TO THE INT RECORD ALL BY HIMSELF!!!
And please, since Mike Holmgren left Farve and the Pack, what has Green Bay done? Nothing. Holmgren however at least took another team to the Super Bowl. Hhhhmmmmmm. Is there a connection there?
Oh, and by the way, I’m a Bucs fan baby!!! And don’t say a band wagon jumper either. I’ve liked them since the cream cicle oragne days and never left them.
Oh, and one last thing….
FARVE SUCKS!! FARVE SUCKS!! HE REALLY, REALLY SUCKS!!!
Comment by Warren Adams — April 30, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
God Bless you….Warren Adams. I cannot wait to see the day when Farvre (or however you pronounce it) breaks that all important record (MOST INT’s EVER). It should be a proud day in Packerland when that happens. Maybe there should be a parade downtown Green Bay on that day!! Wait….is there a downtown in Green Bay???
Comment by Paul — May 3, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
OMG you guys are idiots first of all George Blanda played QB and kicker and had way more interception than touchdown’s.Look at Dan Marino’s career he is a great player but he was also close to the record.Yeah sure It looks like Brett Favre is going to break the record but people will remember him for being one of the greatest QB’s in the history in the NFL.And if anyone plays as long as he did and as many attempts as he had they’ll break the interception record.Do some research before you come on here and start saying “oh Brett Favre sucks because his going to break the record for the most interceptions” But I guess you cant change an idiot.
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Wow! Betty Farve “changed his mind” and decided to grace the Packer’s with his presence for their MANDITORY minicamps? Why, I’ll bet that just boosts the morale of the team higher then a kite! Why, surely such great leadership will inspire them to play…well, at least .500 ball.
Once again, Farve proves he’s a self serviing bastard. I don’t know about Elway, but I’m pretty sure you didn’t hear such instances with Montana, Starr, or Unitas.
“Oh, but Brett is so good that he doesn’t have to go to those mini-camps to learn the system.” Is what I’m sure every Farve Worshipper will say. And I respond “Bull-shiite!”. As leader of the Packers, he should have been there before everyone else. A leader is suppose to inspire this teammates to work that much harder just for them. Anybody who has held a job and actually lives outside of their mother’s basement will know Farve’s actions are detrimental to the team. No matter how much better another guy is, he’s not above the team rules. If somebody is that special, then “they can just win all by themselves, cause I’m not working any harder then I have too.” is what every other Packer PLAYER is thinking right now.
Forget it Pack, you’ll be lucky if your team doest better then 8-8 this year. And you can blame your leader Betty Farve for it. Well, at least he’ll lay claim to that INT record this year!!!
Comment by Warren — May 18, 2007 @ 7:26 am
Brett Favre stinks. He is a ‘marquee name’, no doubt, but he is – and for a long time has been – a lousy quarterback in the NFL. I have never understood his ‘unquestioned’ credentials…He is an undisciplined loose cannon who costs his team as many points as he creates.
I don’t deny that he had a couple of good years in GB, but he has had the benefit of the “Lombardi aura” for far too long. He simply does not belong in the category of top quarterbacks in NFL history…
The NFL needs heroes to market to the fanbase, but this guy has been overhyped like no other QB I am aware of.
Brett Favre had a very short primetime career, it was long ago and he should have retired back when he had some dignity…He is worse than Drew Bledsoe and Bledsoe at least had the sense to get out before they threw him out…
Comment by favrehater — May 18, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Just for the facts: While it is true that Blanda has played 99 more games than Favre, it is also a fact that in the last part of his career, Blanda played the nine lasts seasons primarily as a placekicker, but also as the QB backup. Read more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=29
Comment by Daniel Bendix — June 27, 2007 @ 8:16 am
And your point about Blanda is….?
Wait I know, Farve should have played placekicker and backup QB for the last 9 season of his career too! Brilliant!!
Look, the “Most INTs In A Career” is the only title Betty Farve will hold onto for a long, long, long time. After Peyton Manning gets the stats for “Most Yards” and “Most TDS” in a career, Betty-boy will just be another name and number on the lists. In the future, nobody outside of aging Packer-backers will give the guy a second thought. Announcers will say “Ricky Bob, the great QB for the Las Vegas Panthers, has passed Brett Farve for the number two spot on the All-Time Passing Yards list. Ricky is only 2,000 yards shy of the all time leader, the great Peyton Manning.” Young fans will then note that “whoever this Brett Farve guy is, he couldn’t have been very good if he’s got the Most INTS In A Career record. That guy must have sucked! He got his stats purely because he was in the league so long! Ricky Bob is WAY better then that guy!”
Sorry guys, just giving you the cold hard facts today, June 27, 2007.
Comment by Warren — June 27, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Favre is an embarrassement to the NFL. Sorry, packer fans butt he SUCKS!
Comment by Lance — July 12, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Brett Favre is the most overrated player in sports history. He is a joke, a disgrace to the game, and I cannot wait till he breaks the interception record. I bet ESPN wont even mention it since they basically baby him like the friggin refs do every friggin sunday…HE SUX HE SUX HE SUX…I sit and laugh when I watch him…
Comment by Brock — July 13, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Who-Ha! The countdown to Betty Farve being NUMBER 1 CAREER INTERCEPTIONS begins in less then a month!
Oh Yeah baby, its almost FOOTBALL SEASON!!!
Farve suxs,
he suxs,
he really, really suxs!!!
Comment by Warren — August 9, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Much props for the TRUTH!
Do you know how much smoke and mirrors I had to sort through about Favre’s “greatness” to get this stat off the internet. He really is a self-centered individual, if he wasnt such a stat whore he would have retired long ago for the benefit of his team. And how does the press always seem to magically appear for all his heart-felt moments like hurricaine Katrina conversations with his mother? Sorry Green Bay fans but your hero is a fraud. Hell, I could start every game too if I was on enough percocet to kill a rhino! Oh gotta go I think Brett’s calling another press conference about his ingrown toenail, maybe he’ll wear a pepsi hat!
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Jason, believe me I completely understand. I had to dig through quite a few football stat websites to find one that would give me career interceptions for Favre. I agree with the rest of your comments as well. I’m not a Packers fan at all, but even I’m tired of seeing this guy hold his team hostage year after year. For better or worse, whether you liked the way they handled it or not, at least the 49ers had the balls to send Joe Montana away when they thought he was done. If a team can get rid of Joe Montana, why can’t a team get rid of Favre?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — August 13, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
im sure the only records that favre cares about is super bowl victories (he has one so far) and the regular season victory record (currently held by john elway) with brett bieng one victory away.. im sure he wants philly bad.. anything he can do to try to win the game he will do…yeah alot of times it happens he throws a pick but you cant argue about his victories…thats what counts,,,only one losing season in his 16 year career is amazing…how many other quarterbacks can you say that about…and which ones walk out of that tunnel every single week
Comment by rich hartwig — August 26, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Favre sucks so bad that he can’t even beat his own meat!!!
Comment by Lance — August 26, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Ah contrair, mon Rich. I think I can infact argue about Betty Farve’s victory’s. First off, since the 80’s, the Pack and Betty have played in the historicly weakest divisions in football. Before the 4 division split they were in a division with the pumkin-clad TAMPA BAY Yucs, DETROIT, MINNESOTA, AND CHICAGO. The Pumpkin-clad Yucs under Cloverhouse was the worst franchise in the history of sports. Detroit had Barry Sanders but everything else sucks like it does to this day with Matt Millen. Other then the ‘85 Bears (which was a bit before Betty’s time) and the recent Bears team, DA Bears? DA’y sucked too. Now, the Vikings occasionaly actually had good teams, but did they even make it to a Super Bowl in that whole time? NO! And when the NFL went to the 4 division format, the only thing that changed was that the toughest franchise at the time, The Tony Dungy Bucs, were moved out of the North Division. I mean come on, the Pack were guarenteed a winning Division record just by showing up! So ya see Richie, its not that Betty really was that good, its just that his competition was that much poorer then him. Jesus, I could have lead a team to at least an .500 record during that era, AND I’m AN ACCOUNTANT FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!!!!
Yes, I’ll admit, it was a very similar situation to the Joe Montana-Era 49ers over in the NFL’s Western Division with the Niners, Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals. But at least Joe went to 4 Super Bowls and WON THEM ALL!
Secondly, has Betty Farve really done anything since Mike Holmgren left and went to Seatle? Lets see, Holmgren’s Seahawks at least got to the Super Bowl and under the leadership of a decent, not good, not great, but DECENT QB. What’s Betty Farve and the Pack done since Mike left? Oh yeah, they got BEAT DOWN on their OWN FROZEN TUNDRA TURF by the INCREDIBLE DOG-MURDER-RUNNING BACK-WHO-POSES-AS-A-QUARTERBACK Mike Vick! So, given the post Holmgren performance of the Pack, who would the average citizen say seems more responsible for the Super Bowl win: Mike Holgren or Betty Farve? Yep, Mike wins by a landslide as to why Betty even made it to a Super Bowl!!!
Finally, Ms. Farve won’t be holding on to those “Most Wins In A Career” and “Most TDs In A Career” records for very long anyway. Because when Mr. Peyton Manning gets done with his career, all those records will be his and Brett Farve will just be another name on a list.
Oh, and one Super Bowl victory? Just one? Trent Dilfer has one Super Bowl Ring. The really great Quarterbacks have at least more then one!
Face Richie-boy:
Fave Suxs,
He Suxs.
He Really, Really Suxxxxxssss!!!
Comment by Warren — August 27, 2007 @ 8:13 am
I’m a Packer fan and I hope Favre dies of explosive diarrhea this year. Cuz that’s what he’s doing to the team. Hey, great, he had some awesome years. Ten years ago. Got us to two SBs and won one before the Vikes (HA!). But it was time to ride off into the sunset three years ago. Not hamper the team for another ten. Get the TD/victory records, old man, and then let Rodgers run the show so you don’t get the INT record, too.
Comment by Vic O'Din — September 6, 2007 @ 1:49 am
George Blanda played as a kicker, linebacker, place kicker and punter. Just so you know Blanda had 4007 pass attempts while Favre has had 8265, so yeah more attempts=more chances for interceptions.LOL Do some research before you talk, Blanda might have played 340 games but half of them weren’t at QB.DEE DEE DEE…HAHAHA
Comment by George Blanda — September 9, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
hey pack fan,
i love favre around as it completely hinders the development of rodgers and any hint of a good offense as long as he’s around and gives any team that plays them a chance. the thing that surprises me from you idiots as that you still think he’s good. how can you possibly think he’s good for your team? not convinced? check this out:
In 2005 and 2006, Favre turned the ball over 64 times. Heading into Week 14 last season, the Packers were 4-8 and lost to four teams with good defenses (the Bears, Pats, Eagles and Jets) by a combined 130-19 margin.
ya, i’m a vikes fan and know we’re consistently underachievers and packer fans are way better, but that doesn’t make you smart. favre blows. live with it.
Comment by actionjackson — September 9, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Ah YEAH! Betty Farve is one step, er, INT closer to the All-Time Career Interceptions! Can ya smell it, BOYZZZZ!!!
Ya know, that’s another annoying thing about Packer Fan. Even though Betty Farve is like old enough to be some of them’s GRANDFATHER, they still think the guy walks on freaking water. HEY, MORONS, even Joe “The Greatest One” Montana’s skills declined severly in his last few years. So much so that for the betterment of one of the greatest Dynasty’s ever, Joe “4 Time Super Bowl Winner” Montana was traded as to allow a new QB to develop. Every certified GREAT and the even not so great players skills declined as they got older.
But oh no, despite the OBVIOUS evidence to the contrary, Packer or should I say Betty Farve Fan still thinks Betty-boy can complete a pass to Shannon Sharpe with Farve standing in one end-zone and Sharpe standing in the opposite end-zone all while Farve is scrambling away from 20 Defensive Lineman, milking Bessey, and cooking a braut all at the same time. Its pathetic. And I call them Betty Farve fans as opposed to Packer Fans because they care more for Farve then they do for their own franchise.
Comment by Warren Adams — September 9, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
IN 2005 and 2006 BFavre had no receivers at all, he only had Driver, so wtf? No running game+plus lots of passing attempts=more int’s, yes Brett will own the INT’s record,but like someone said”George Blanda played as a kicker, linebacker, place kicker and punter. Just so you know Blanda had 4007 pass attempts while Favre has had 8265, so yeah more attempts=more chances for interceptions.LOL Do some research before you talk, Blanda might have played 340 games but half of them weren’t at QB.DEE DEE DEE…HAHAHA”
Comment by Idiot — September 10, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Oh yeah, and I love how morons can’t spell “Favre” Correctly.
Comment by Idiot — September 10, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Okay, fine. About George Blanda…how is even HE better then Betty FARVE? Because George played QB, kicker, punter, and linebacker. All Betty did was play QB.
Comment by Warren — September 10, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
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Favre has had double the attempts than blanda did, it doesn’t matter how many games he played, what matters is the pass attempts to int’s how is it possible for Favre to throw over 8k passes and have less int’s than someone who only threw for 4k passes?
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Comment by Warren is a total moron — September 12, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Why the heck would I want to contact this dude? Hell, he didn’t leave a name. Good old internet. The new “mommy’s skirt” for craven cowards to hide behind.
Oh, and Favre SUCCCCCKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Warren — September 13, 2007 @ 7:42 am
To begin, let me start by saying that Brett Favre will own the record for the most interceptions thrown by an NFL quarterback in a single career. This is a given. However, for all of you Favre haters out there let me remind you of some other interesting stats on Favre’s resume.
Record Most Consecutive Starts: 239
(259 including postseason)
Record Most MVP Awards: 3 [1995-97]
(the only three-time winner in NFL history)
Pro Bowl Selections:
Favre [1991-Present]: 8
7th all-time
Record Wins:
Favre [1991-Present]: 149
1st all-time
Record TD Passes:
Favre [1991-Present]: 417
soon to be 1st all-time
Record Passing Yards:
Favre [1991-Present]: 57,992
2nd all-time
Record Completions:
Favre [1991-Present]: 5,073
1st all-time
Most Consecutive Games with TD Pass:
Favre [Streak 2002-04]: 36
2nd all-time
Most 3,000+ Yard Seasons:
Favre [1991-Present]: 15
1st all-time
Consecutive Seasons with 20 TD Passes:
Favre [1991-2005]: 12
1st all-time
Record Career Postseason TD Passes:
Favre [1991-Present]: 34
2nd all-time
Consecutive Postseason Games with TD Pass:
Favre [1995-2004]: 16
1st all-time
Most Career Postseason Passing Yards:
Favre [1991-Present]: 4,902
3rd all-time
So to say Favre sucks is an ignorant statement in itself because then you are saying that all of the other QB’s below him in these statistical categories (of which he leads most) “suck even worse” than he does. Either the creator of this site is jealous of Favre’s accomplishments and wishes his or her team had a QB as good as him OR they are just a Bears fan. Who have, by the way, started more different QB’s during Favre’s tenure in Green Bay than the Packers have even had on there roster in the past 10 years. Since Favre has just broke the most career wins by a QB today I have realized that all of those TD’s must not have hurt his team as much as this site promotes it did.
Who is this WARREN guy that keeps writing dumb comments on this forum such as…”Blanda is better than Favre because he played Kicker, Punter, and LB along with QB”. What the hell does that have to do with being a good QB? Warren do you watch football? Have you ever played the game? obviously not because there is nobody in the game that could ever do that again and even be effective at on of those positions. Why is Rex Gross-Man starting at QB for the Bears? if he continues at the pace he’s on he’ll shatter Favre’s INT record. How many picks did Gross throw in the Bowl last year 4 or 5 I can’t remember, there were too many to count. To all of you SO CALLED Packer fans that say “Favre needs to retire” or “Favre is hurting this team.”, you guys make me sick. Brett is out there busting his ass for his team over and over again and still winning. He is still, at his age, one of the top 10 QB’s in the league. Lets not even discuss the fact Favre has only one Super Bowl win and that, according to Warren, “the really great QB’s have two or more”. Are you kidding me?!? does Marino mean anything to you? I guess Fran Tarkenton sucked too, didn’t he. Warren, did you star in the movie “There’s Something About Mary” and play Cameron Diaz’s retarded brother who was also named Warren, because with some of these comments Id put money on it. In conclusion I hope somebody on this forum tops what I have just written, I dare you. By the way Brett has the 6th best TD to INT ratio in NFL history. Higher than Aikman, Bradshaw, and Elway. So what is this website trying to prove? It can’t be that Favre sucks because he will have thrown the most INT’s, because I just proved he doesn’t. I have taken the exact type of stats of which this site uses and proved Favre to have been, statistically, the best QB to have ever played the game. He owns most of the MAJOR QB records and is still the only 3-time MVP. He should have won more Super Bowls but has never had a Hall of Fame player with him on offense unlike Bradshaw, Aikman, Manning, or Montana. There is more to winning Super Bowls than the Quarterback position, unless your the Bears and chose to never win a Super Bowl because they haven’t discovered the QB position yet.
Comment by Brian — September 17, 2007 @ 12:39 am
For all of you Favre Haters.
First of all I agree totally with Brian. He has made my post a little smaller.
It will take Favre the same amount of years to break Marino’s and Elway’s records. Secondly no other QB besides Marino has over 8000 attempts. As Brian mentioned take a look at Favre’s TD/INT ratio. What this means for those that don’t understand football is that although he has thrown a lot of INT he is still scoring at a very high rate. Most QB’s that are considered greats are considered that because of Superbowl victories, well news to everyone it takes a lot of players to win superbowls. Just ask Trent Dilfer. What about McNabb, Manning, Marino, Moon and many other good quarterbacks that haven’t won a superbowl or have only won a superbowl. I assume they suck as well. We all know that is not true as it takes more then just a good QB to win a superbowl.
Brian made some of my other points but I wanted to reinforce what he posted.
Over and out.
Comment by Randy — September 17, 2007 @ 1:04 am
You are a fricking dick head! Favre is one of the greatest QB’s that have ever played!
Comment by George — September 17, 2007 @ 1:26 am
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Your write Favre never fails…he has just thrown another INT along with 3 TD’s and 286 YDS while completing over 60% of his passes. Did I mention he also led the packers to victory for the 6th straight game dating back to last year? And he’s doing this with the youngest team in the NFL…one that was projected to finish 3rd in the NFC North. Anything else Favre haters?
Comment by Brian — September 17, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Winningest qb in history bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yea if your talking about the White Sox, lets hope none of you chicago sports fan posers are Cubs fans. Then i’ll really have to start busting out comments.
Comment by Brian — September 18, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
I can’t believe the ignorance of some of the comments by some people on this website.Brett Favre is one of the best football players of all-time and not overrated by any means and predicting that Manning will break all of his records what twelve years down the road is a fucking real gem how about giving me the winning lotto numbers while your at it Nostradumbass. Give the man credit where credit is due.
Comment by Deeman — September 18, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
Damn that Favre guy is good. I wish I could play like him someday.
Comment by Eli Manning — September 19, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Me too, little brother…me too.
Comment by Peyton Manning — September 19, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Rex Grossman will shatter his INT record and all that will be left is Brett Favre’s TD and Passing Yards records…and everyone will say “Wow, that leather-wearing asshole-licking dildo-recieving gay-orgy-participating non-football-watching faggot Warren sure was wrong. Brett Favre was an amazing athlete.” Liars can figure, but figures don’t lie…Brett Favre – Winningest Quarterback of All Time.
Comment by Warren Loves Goatse — September 19, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Favre’s skills have declined from age and he is not elite anymore but he is still better than at least 20 starting QBs and if Favre was on some of these other guys teams they would be hanging from his ball sack instead of talking all that shit about of him. Warren is one of the biggest rump rangering pillow biters of all time. He is probably so pissed at Favre because Favre shot down his unwanted sexual advances.
Comment by Deeman — September 19, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
The key to breaking a career record, good or bad, is you need to be around long enough to break it. The average career of an NFL player, according to the NFL player’s association, is four seasons. That’s because many players either get injured or aren’t good enough to play at the professional level. Many quarterbacks who turn pro end up retiring or being cut before they even throw a pass.
Of the other four quarterbacks ranked in the top five on the career interception list, three are in the NFL Hall of Fame. And, fans shouldn’t be surprised about that. After all, the only players that are going to be on this list are the good players. That’s because if a quarterback is lousy, they aren’t going to be playing long enough to challenge for this title. Teams want to win and don’t forgive mistakes easily.
Comment by I'm Better Than You — September 20, 2007 @ 7:50 am
One stat you forget to include: Blanda had 4007 pass attempts while Favre has had 8265. The real measure should not be games played to interceptions, but pass attempts to interceptions and.
Comment by Paul — September 21, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Hey Warren,
Did you see the last game against the Chargers?
thanks
Comment by ADA — September 23, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Hey Warren you partial retard, did you see Favre suck against the Chargers today and throw 3 TDs and over 300 yards. Oh and by the way the Packers won and are now 3-0. How do you feel about what just happened today?
Comment by Brian — September 23, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Montana Favre Blanda
Picks per completions
1 pick per 24.53 1 pick per 18.55 1 pick per 6.90
Picks per attempt
1 pick per 38.78 1 pick per 30.36 1 pick per 14.47
Touchdowns per pick
1.96 td’s per pick 1.53 td’s per pick .85 td’s per pick
So while Montana could (should?) be considered a better QB than Favre, Blanda certainly should not. The INT record is nothing to be proud of, but after championships, I think wins is the next most important stat in judging a QB. Just my opinion…
Comment by Mark — September 24, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Interesting to note that the weeks the Packers win, the Favre haters are nowhere to be found. It’s easy to jump on someone when they are down – why aren’t you stepping up now and saying why Favre still sucks? Statistically you have been proven wrong.
If you have seen the games so far this year, you will note his arm strength is still there, the accuracy is still there (with the receivers whom he had played with for more than 3 games), only the occasional scramble looks to be more limited. On a team with no running game, obviously passing on nearly every down, he has the best TD-INT ratio of his career aside from the Super Bowl-winning season. To this point in the season, what comments do the Favre-haters have?
Comment by Another Mark — September 25, 2007 @ 7:33 am
Wellllll, lets see now…
First off, when a guy does good, you gotta give him props. Brett Favre threw a good game againt the San Deigo Chargers.
But after that….OOOOO 300 yards, 3 TDs my, how freaking God-Like can you get? Wait, wait, wait. If you really think the 300+yards and 3TDs was “God-Like”, then how much should you clowns be bowing and scraping at the alter of Carson Palmer last week when he threw for 400 Yards and 6 Touchdowns!?!?!?!!!
Again, FAVRE IS FREAKING OVERRATED, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT HE’S A FREAKING OLD GUY!!! So he tied Dan Marino’s TD record? Big whoop. Marino did it in few games. But still, you’re comparing Favre to another selfish stat hog who didn’t even win ONE Super Bowl ring!
Ya see chops, even a good player can pile the stats up when given 240+ games to do it in( Right back at you on comment #90!) and with the right system(Marino in a throw 1st, throw 2nd, throw 3rd, and throw on 4th). But a TRUELY GREAT PLAYER, the kind of player worthy of “God-Like” praise from the fans raises the level of play of the players around him. He makes them play better then they really are. As much as I hate the guy, Troy Aikman is a perfect example. In Dallas, Alvin Harper seemed like a star just waiting to burst out from under the Aikman/Smith/Irvin trio. Yet when he actually did go to another team, Harper SUCKED! 4 Time Super Bowl Champion Joe Montana was able to lead his fellow teammates to continuely play at a pro-bowl level year in and year out. HE RAISED THE LEVEL OF PLAY OF THE PLAYERS AROUND HIM. In Montana’s diminished last few years, he was able to lead a not so good team into the playoffs. Had he been in his prime, who knows what he could have done. But alas, at his older age, Montana’s fans agreed that his skills weren’t what they use to be(something you Farve fans refuse to do.) Larry Bird and Michael Jordan are similar God-like/Legends of their game who RAISED THE LEVEL OF PLAY OF THOSE AROUND THEM.
Dan Marino’s lone Super Bowl appearence came because he got the helm of a team that went to the Super Bowl the previous year. After that, he was such a selfish stat hog player that he never even sniffed another Super Bowl. Marino couldn’t raise the level of the players around him, they would not play for him. Favre has the same inability. As he said himself last year (or was it the year before) that the team he was playing on was more talented then the Super Bowl teams he played on. What, was the mighty Football God Betty Farve wrong? After that many years playing, I doubt it. It probably was a very talented team. Its just sucky Favre couldn’t get them to play better!!!
Face it chops, FAVRE SUCKS!!!
Comment by Warren — September 25, 2007 @ 8:17 am
This Warren dude is an idiot.
Who do you think is good besides Montana and Aikman who played with how many superstars and potential hall of famers. You think that Montana and Aikman made them into superstars and potential hall of famers. You have got to be the dumbest SOB on the planet. If anything Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith and the damn O-line turned Aikman into a hall of famer. Montana had Dwight Clark, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Roger Craig and take a look at his O-line goober. You are hating on QB’s that for some reason maybe the stupid management of the team never brought in players to give them a chance. When Favre and Marino did have a somewhat decent team look what they did.
By the way what the hell do you mean by stat hog. Winning, longevity and throwing TD’s makes you a stat hog. Then Manning is biggest stat hog out there. Who the hell do you think calls the plays? In Manning’s case he does….who is the stat hog now?
Your posts are soooo stupid. You think that the quarterback wins superbowls by himself and if he doesn’t win then he is a stat hog and sucks. Sounds like someone who has never experienced the game at a higher level then playing with his cousin in the back yard. Keep playing Madden dude as your analysis of football is about as retarded as John’s sound effects. (Boom, where’d my brain go)
Face it bacon, WARREN SUCKS!!!
Oh by the way, for all practical purposes it took Favre 242 games to break the record. Favre’s first season of 2 games are not legit because he didn’t play but at the end of the game. (4 attempts)
Comment by Randy — September 25, 2007 @ 9:25 am
Umm, I’m not a Favre fan by any means but isn’t your George Blanda to Brett Favre stat comparison at the top of a page a little off? If my memory serves me correctly, Blanda was a Placekicker for many of those games played. I don’t remember Favre ever playing any other position in his NFL career. To make the comparison more fair, maybe you should change it and only count the games where Blanda played Quarterback. I would be willing to be the interceptions/game would be MUCH higher for Blanda than Favre.
Comment by JustMe — September 25, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
RE: # 97
Heh heh heh.
Another day, another pissed off Betty Favre fan. Ahhh. They make it too easy, you know? I mean a Montana or Young fan would just blow this website off as if it were nothing. Marino fans as well. Aikmen fans…eh, I don’t know.
But those insecure Favre-worshipping Packer-Backers are just so cute when you talk bad about Favre and they get all pissed off. Aren’t they? Its like some Muslim getting pissed off because you made fun of MOOOOhammad or something and they are so insecure about their team and their guy, they feel that their guy needs defending.
Just post: FARVE SUCKS and watch them go wild!!!
Heh heh. They’ll break out the personal insults and all kinds of stuff: “Hey you idiot, moron, fart-face! Favre doesn’t suck! He rules! Favre is and always will be the best Quarterback to ever play the game! Bow before the mighty god Favre! All other players suck compared to the God- Like Favre! Heh. I showed that stink face who the best Quarterback is and always will be. Heh, heh.”
They’re just so cute. You can just picture the guy sitting in his mother’s basement, listening to Jim Rome in the background, Brett Farve highlights coming from the dingy little TV and VCR, sitting in an old pair of underwear and a #4 Brett Favre jersey. Over on three walls are cut outs from the newspapers of Favre and little candles. On the 4th wall, the remains of years of left over brauts and cheese sit molding. Having no job and no social life, the bathtub goes un used. They scour the internet searching day and night for all things Brett Favre related. Searching for just one more morsel of information, just one more picture of their god, Brett Favre. As the drool runs down the side of their mouth they stumble upon a website denoucing Brett Favre as something less then a God! NOOOO!!!! This cannot be! They must defend their sole reason for living! Into action they jump! Decrying the person who would insult the one person, the one true God Brett Favre. The one person they think about at all hours of the day including their…”happy time”. Having slowly pecked out their personal “insult” many hours later, they pump and raise their fists in triumph! They have shown the world once again the power of Brett Favre! And from above, their parents stomp on the floor telling the Favre fan to shut up, for they don’t want the neighbors to know that…oh the horrors, their son, a grown man of 40 years of age, worships a false god in the form of Brett Favre and lives forever more in their basement!
Comment by Warren — September 25, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
Warren 4:50,
Your post is pretty funny but its length and creativity implies you have too much free time on your hands and shows an inordinate amount of thought and effort; perhaps you are describing your own situaton.
Moreover, I’ve noticed multiple posts from you, I think its time to reflect why you are determined to make a point that cannot be factually or statistically supported.
Comment by ADA — September 25, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Ada– There is only one problem with your latest conclusion…We don’t have basements in Florida! Therefore, I could not be living in my parent’s basement! Ah HA!
though we do have lofts over the garages. They can be pretty nice though!!!
Comment by Warren — September 26, 2007 @ 7:46 am
I am really impressed by your assessment of my life. However you are a little off, as we don’t have basements in Texas either nor do we have garage aparments. I am a favre fan but don’t worship any of these over-paid spoiled brats. Your response when someone points out some truth seems only to talk about someone thinking favre is a god. Sorry dude you are barking up the wrong tree. I am a football fan that sees it as it is. Favre is a very good QB and no matter how many posts you put up he will remain as one of the best to play the game. I am not interested in protecting or backing Favre just rebuking your stupid comments. If you talked the same about another player and your comments were as stupid as they are I would still be willing to post.
You are just like some of the people that I deal with on a daily basis. Voicing your opinion, one that is uneducated and is backed by no evidence. I just wanted to make sure you realize that without evidence your comments are pretty ignorant.
Oh by the way if you didn’t want anyone to respond why didn’t you give your 1/2 cent opinion to your friends instead of posting on the internet. Oh now I get it……it is all becoming clear now. Good luck and happy hunting because whether favre is or is not the greatest my life will go on.
over and out.
Comment by Randy — September 27, 2007 @ 10:14 am
You all take this way to seriously. If you don’t like what’s written on the website, then you should just move on. You are very naive if you think that everyone is going to be a Favre fan. For every crazy fanatic there is going to be a counter who hates him.
I will admit that back in his prime, Favre was an excellent QB. However, he has made it very clear that he is only still playing so that he can beat more records and it shows that he has no respect for the game of football.
The bottom line is that a QB should be rated on his complete stats. If every two INTs erased one of his TDs, you really wouldn’t have anything left to brag about. So, if you’re going to go on about his great stats, be prepared for everyone to show you the many many failures he’s also produced.
Favre could’ve went down as one of the greatest QB’s and most might people would’ve supported that had he retired years ago. Now he’s just become a joke.
Comment by brookz — September 30, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
103. I love when people say just move on and then they post. Quite interesting comments because if any quarterback throws 2 INT to 1 TD then yeah it is obvious that he isn’t that good. But that is not even remotely the case in Favre situation. If you take away 1 TD for his every INT then he is still left with over 200 TDs. It is not about hating or liking someone it is about being ignorant. Everyone has the right to dislike someone but when you say someone sucks and his production proves otherwise then you should just say I don’t like Favre and move on with life. Not put up a stupid website dedicated to his demise. And now you have added your 1/2 cent opinion as well.
So Emmitt Smith has no respect for football because he stayed a little longer to break the rushing record. (There are many more just like this post is already getting long) What is someone supposed to do when they are closing in on breaking records. Just quit and say naw I will leave that record alone and let Dan Marino keep it because he was so great and I am just a scrub.
Your comments like most others on this site are not backed by any evidence.
Comment by Randy — September 30, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
That was 1 TD for every 2 Int. (correction)
Comment by Randy — September 30, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
hey Warren,
did you see favre against the vikings today?
packers are 4-0 and favre looks pretty good huh?
Comment by ADA — September 30, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
brookz(comment # 104) pretty much puts just right on when he posted: “You are very naive if you think that everyone is going to be a Favre fan”. That is just another example of why I hate Betty Farve, his fans, and why I love to just rile them up. Cause they expect everyone to just fall in love with their guy and they can’t stand it when someone points out faults in Favre. They look at Favre as he can do no wrong, that he is perfect in everyway. Well guess what folks, BRETT FAVRE AIN”T FREAKING PERFECT. Exhibit A: what was it, two years ago, when Favre refused to tell the Packer organization wether he was going to retire or not, right up to the start of Training Camp. For an entire summer, he held the organization hostage. Hell, the guy would call press confrences just to say “I don’t know why you guys showed up, I still haven’t made up my mind about retiring or not.” WTF?!?!?!?! Favre freaking called the press conference, that’s why they were there!!!! But Favre fans fall all over themselves trying to excuse this behavior as “Oh, the organization owes him, Favre can do whatever he wants” Bullshitte! The Packer organization has paid out several tens of millions of dollars for Brett Favre’s services. The guy was being a jerk.
Another thing, I don’t perscribe to this New Age “Love Everything, Hate No One” Bullshitte. I’m sure you Packer Backers remember that not too long ago, Favre and the Pack were in the same Division as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. As a Tampa Bay Buc fan, its my right to hate and despise the opposing team. Especially if that team and/or player was directly responsible for stopping my team from advancing in the playoffs several years. Hence, I’m allowed to hate Brett Favre, The Green Bay Packers, and their organization. I am allowed to say that “Brett Favre Sucks!!!” I am allowed to say “The Green Bay Packers Suck!!!”. And no, its not jealousy. The Bucs have won just as many Super Bowls as the Packers have here in this era, one.
Hell, given all the “love” and adoration that John Madden gives Favre every game that Madden announces, that right there is reason enough to despise Favre.
One last note, yes, presently Brett Favre is playing at a good to very good level. I’m not sure exactly cause I haven’t watched any of his games. HOWEVER, I have heard several unbiased TV announcers comment that Favre is not playing the same “gun slinger” style that Favre is known for, that he is playing much more conservatively then in the past several years. So it would seem that Favre is no longer Favre.
Comment by Warren — October 1, 2007 @ 8:08 am
“So it would seem that Favre is no longer Favre.”
That’s what you ended your rant with?
cmon Warren you can do better favre bashing than that!
Comment by ADA — October 1, 2007 @ 8:52 am
number 107. Am I missing something didn’t I say in the damn post that if you want to dislike someone there is nothing wrong with that. Just use some common sense and when you bash a guy with faults (seems like that could take place with anyone seeing how nobody is without faults) that if you are targeting his performance then just back it up with some evidence. You have all the right in the world to dislike someone or to think he sucks but when you post it out in public and someone shows you that indeed he doesn’t suck then why is your response to the tune of we think Brett Favre is perfect. Never said that he was nor will I defend his actions off the field. I don’t know his personal situation so I tend to stay away from speculating about any athlete’s, movie star’s, etc reasonings for doing the things they do. All I am saying to you Warren and to Brookz is that the statistics don’t lie and whether you personally like Favre or not who the hell cares. My post can go on forever but the bottom line is I don’t worship Favre but because you personally don’t like him doesn’t mean he isn’t any good.
Talk at you soon.
Comment by Randy — October 1, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Stats don’t lie Randy. One of the absolute worst things you can do in football is turn the ball over. While Favre is at the helm, the Packers lose 40% of their games (Montana with the 49ers and the Chiefs was at 25%). How many of those are due to his 275 interceptions? How many are due to him playing to get records while past his prime? How many are due to him playing while injured to keep his consecutive starts record intact? Stats don’t lie.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 2, 2007 @ 7:40 am
hey jeffrey,
Please read the stats in post #77,
thanks, and then see his stats for this year, thanks again
Comment by ADA — October 2, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Jason Jeffrey you bring up some interesting points. First I want to correct you on you biggest point, Favre has 149 wins in 245 games that comes out to 60% and Montana has 117 wins in 192 games (wow) unless your calculator is working a little different then mine then I think that is 60% as well. Check it out and see. Even including the playoffs there is no substantial difference.
If you think that a QB loses games by himself then you will fall into the wonderful category of other ignorant posters on this site. Check out this article that breaks it down statistically. http://dberri.wordpress.com/2007/09/23/did-brett-favre-produce-all-those-wins/. So if the interceptions cost him so many losses then you would have to say all of those TD’s he threw gave him all of those wins. Again not a real strong argument there. Now we are verging on eliminating all other players on the field.
By the way some more wonderful stats for you. What was the single best statistical indicator from last year that could help you predict the success of a football team this year. Find those numbers since you searched so hard and exhausted yourself with the imaginary stats you posted earlier. I will give you a hint it is not turnovers.
It all boils down to the Favre haters not liking Favre because they just don’t like him. They pick on his longevity and his gaining record after record. I am a fan but not worshipper and I just call em as I see em with some factual evidence. If you don’t like him shout it from the roof top but trying to prove that he is a terrible quarterback just will not fly in any intelligent conversation.
over and out.
Comment by Randy — October 2, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Randy,
I stand corrected; and now allow me correct you. I dug a little deeper into the stats for both Montana and Favre. If you look at the games each QB ACTIVELY played in (ran or passed the ball), Montana comes in with a 71% win percentage while Favre clocks in at 61%. This includes play time with Atlanta for Favre, and Kansas City for Montana. This also includes playoffs and pro bowls. So Favre went up by 1% and Montana dropped by 4% from my original flawed calculations. 10% more wins isn’t substantial in your opinion? One to two additional victories in a 16 game season means little?
Never have I stated that a QB wins or loses a game based solely on his performance. I would argue however, that a QB has perhaps the single greatest influence on whether a team wins or loses as compared to any other single player or position on the field. I also stand by my turn over comment. With few exceptions, the team that turns the ball over the most is the one that loses the game. With Favre, you are dealing with a player that has turned the ball over 275 times with interceptions alone; I won’t get into his fumble stats yet, that’s for later. Are you telling me that if you cut that number down by even 10%, a number that means little to you judging your previous comments concerning wins versus Montana, that the Packers wouldn’t have won a single additional game throughout Favre’s career? 28 fewer interceptions wouldn’t have made a bit of difference? That’s absolutely ridiculous.
What makes you think that turn overs committed in one year would determine a team’s success in another year? I don’t follow the line of thinking there. Please explain. I was talking about game to game. If you turn the ball over six times in a game, and you don’t force any turn overs yourself, do you think you are going to come out with a victory? Doubtful.
I’m not a Favre hater, I also don’t think Favre is a terrible QB. The Favre Worshippers and Favre Fellaters (I’m looking at you John Madden!) are the ones that rub me the wrong way. This page exists to track a single record Favre is going to get that no one talks about. The media won’t mention his interceptions because they are too busy making him out to be a God, and the Favre Fellaters and Worshippers can’t get enough of it. Favre is a good QB, he’s not the best to ever play the game, he’s not in the top five to ever play the game, I’m not sure if he’s in the top ten to ever play the game. Most likely he’s in the 11 to 15 range.
I want to thank you Randy. Thank you for making me dig deeper into Favre’s stats. I’m considering creating a new page on this site now; one to track Favre’s career fumbles. Did you know that he has 150 fumbles to go along with his massive interception count? 150 fumbles sure is impressive. Favre is third overall for most career fumbles, Warren Moon is first with 161 and Dave Krieg is second with 153. Did you also know that Favre is tied in second place with the most fumbles in a single game with 6? Only one player is in front of him there, Len Dawson with 7. Favre fumbled 6 times on December 7th, 1998 versus the mighty Tampa Bay Buccaneers! Oh, and surprise, the Packers lost that game.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 3, 2007 @ 9:51 am
Well I do want to apologize for miss representing some numbers. I have spent some time looking over some quarterback statistics and well I have some nice information for you. First I want to mention to you that Montana’s win percentage is not 71%. I have gone through with a fine tooth comb and determined that with the regular season and playoffs (forget about pro-bowls) and found that his winning % is around 68% (7% lower then your original post). I got my info from NFL.com. You see I went back as well and looked at Montana’s overall games that he actually participated in and got around 196 games. He won in 133 of them. That comes out to 68% (Staubach, Griese, Young and Bradshaw are right there with him or better). However I do want to point out that he had a great QB behind him (Steve Young), some of those wins belonged to what Steve did when he came in for Joe. Unfortunately the NFL gives the win to the starting QB no matter how well he does or doesn’t do. I can tally about 7-9 victories that clearly belong to Steve. Now Joe still played in those games but unfortunately he didn’t play well enough to win. Realistically he is around 64% and Favre is steady at 61%.
On the other hand you will not find I think a single game that the pack won without a major contribution from Favre.
As for the fumbles this is a hard stat to use in comparison with QBs. They didn’t start tracking this stat until the 90s. Hard to compare with older players.
I also want to take out all biased opinions here and let the stats determine who is the top quarterbacks. Remember I have never said that Favre is the best qb of all time. However I would propose that we put this to a test to see if Favre lands lower then your projected 11-15 range. I say we compare stats that are comparable. What I mean is lets look at TD/INT ratio, TD/Attempt, INT/Attempt, Completion Percentage and Rating. I wanted to include Winning % but the stats for older players are harder to find. What do you say….any other suggestion for stats that are not dependent on how long a player played (yards, attempts, completions, etc all will be dominated by players that play longer). Lets set the rule at 10 seasons played with no fewer pass attempts then 2000. From there we can determine statistically where each quarterback falls.
I understand that we are throwing out superbowls right now because I want to see who is the best at playing the position of QB. The intangibles are hard to measure. What do you think. I have already starting to compile the numbers. This will atleast settle that Favre doesn’t suck and statistically he might just match up with all other quartbacks.
Last question….If you hate how the media favors Favre so much then why don’t you attack the media. Put up a sight about Madden, Al Michaels or something of that nature. It is not Favre’s fault that the media does those things. Lets put the blame where the blame is due.
Comment by Randy — October 4, 2007 @ 12:12 am
(correction) that was put up a site….
Comment by Randy — October 4, 2007 @ 9:08 am
It doesn’t matter what you guys say. He’s one of the best quarterbacks of all time and will be in the hall of fame and remembered until the end of American Football. When he dies, people are still going to know he was a great. When you die, nobody is gonna give two shits after a few years. You won’t be remembered, just dead. He will live forever in the hall of fame.
Comment by You Guys Suck — October 7, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
I feel so vindicated to find this website. I have been railing on Brett Favre for years about his interceptions, and I always felt like I was just shouting into the wind. It’s like Lord Favre can do no wrong. 5 picks in a game?!?!? Who cares!!! It’s Brett Favre. The all-american boy!!! How dare we criticize LORD FAVRE??? I hope he throws 2 more picks tonite against the Bears with Madden there, so he can gag on his Terducken…
Comment by Rob — October 7, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
wow! anyone with half a brain would say that favre is one of the best qb’s ever. his longevity and his ability and willingness to play even when hurt should say something! even other qb’s that have played before him agree with that. brett is not playing to establish any records, he is playing because he LOVES the game. have you seen him out there? he looks like he is about 14 years old and playing with his buds in the neighborhood. he genuinely loves the game! which is more than i can say for either manning boy. peyton has even admitted to wanting to break all of favre’s records, and even if he does, he will never be in the same class as favre. staying in the game and throwing 4-5 touchdowns when ahead by at least 3 touchdowns is not so cool, peyton. he’s a ball hog and must really like seeing himself as he is all over on tv. you would think that the colts would be paying him top dollar, but apparently not cuz he has to make so many commercials…. not that is a quarterback so in to himself!!….. i guess it runs in the family cuz eli is the same way… just not as bad as peyton, yet…. and of course favre will throw interceptions as he has been playing for 17 years now and does throw alot! look at his pass attempts to see how much he throws!! all i can say is GO PACK GO! so what if the bears stopped you tonight, you will see them in their home turf later this season and you all saw how favre played there last year….. and the bears still suck! 2 – 3 bears… 4 – 1 packers…. pack still leads the division… can’t wait for them to play the lions….
Comment by Julie — October 7, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
oh, and by the way, favre leads the league in passing yards this year for the nfl. brady and manning aren’t even close…. this is through week 5!
Comment by Julie — October 7, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
This is one of the most entertaining to read websites that I have found. Most of the people posting on here are way too hard-core Packer fans. Settle down a bit. It’s just a game.
Comment by Mike — October 8, 2007 @ 9:02 am
Randy,
For some reason, you and I are getting different numbers here with regards to Favre and Montana. I also went to NFL.com, created a spreadsheet, and started putting in the numbers for both QBs. I made no judgment calls as to whether Steve Young pulled the 49ers from the brink of a Montana led loss or whether Montana won the game outright. I don’t see how we can make that determination with 100% accuracy without reviewing the actual game footage. So, if Montana participated in the game, then I counted it as a win or loss. Throwing out Pro Bowls per your suggestion, I come up with a career record for Montana of 140-59 with a W/L% of 70.35%. Using the same approach with Favre, I come up with a career record of 163-102 with a W/L% of 61.51%. Of course all of the Packers wins and losses have come with major contributions from Favre during his era there. For all intents and purposes he’s the only QB they’ve had since they got him because, for better or worse, he never misses a game.
I agree that fumbles would be a difficult stat to go by when comparing QBs. Montana is credited with only 8 fumbles in his entire career according to NFL.com. While I don’t consider Montana a “fumbler,” certainly he has more than 8. I brought up fumbles to show just another way Favre gives the opposing team a chance to win. You must admit, 150 fumbles is quite an impressive figure.
It’s going to be difficult to find stats on some of the all-time great QBs. Otto Graham for example; the man has a career record of 105-17-4. Good luck finding stats for his entire career. What about Johnny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Bart Starr, Sid Luckman, Len Dawson, Norm Van Brocklin or Milt Plum? That’s just a few…
There’s no point in putting up a site or page criticizing the media for pumping up Favre. However, I do criticize Madden every chance I get for worshiping Favre and for making idiotic statements in general. So many people are on the Favre worshiping bandwagon, the media is just giving them what they want. These people that say Favre is the best to ever play the game, have they ever even heard of Otto Graham, Bart Starr or any of the few I listed above? Have they seen Montana play? Hell how about even Young or Aikman for that matter? They are just falling in line like good little sheep and trumping the Favre Fellater horn. For another example, look at Mike Vick. Before he got caught torturing and killing dogs, I couldn’t tell you how many times I heard or read someone in the media calling him the best QB. Vick is an excellent athlete with great running skills, elusiveness and a cannon arm. However, his leadership is highly questionable, passing accuracy and touch on the ball is dubious at best and his discipline is pathetic. He did nothing in his career as a QB other than make highlight films… and those are all of him running the ball. That sure didn’t stop the media from pumping him up though.
Why didn’t you have any comments regarding my statement on turnovers?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 8, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Congratulations Betty Farve!!!
Let’s see how high you can take this too!!
And come on Betty, don’t chicken out on us here. Don’t be conservative. Be that “wild west gun slinger” that your Farve Worshipers rave about…even though you really don’t have the tools to be that player anymore. Getting old sucks, doesn’t it?
And look at it this way, this is one passing record that is truely yours and won’t be surpassed by Peyton Manning in the next decade.
Comment by Warren — October 8, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Brett Favre or Rodney Farva (SuperTroopers) – twin brothers seperated at birth.
Comment by Steve — October 8, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Watching Tony Romo throw 5 tonight vs Bills makes me wonder how many times Brett has thrown 5? does anyone know?
Comment by Rob — October 9, 2007 @ 12:02 am
I just stumbled on to this site and absolutely love it.
I give Favre credit as a great player, but he is without a doubt the most over-rated player of this era. His talent-packed team of the nineties should have won several Superbowls, but his mistakes were too many to overcome. He’s also had teams since that were good enough to win it all, but his ints ended their season again.
But hey, he loves to play the game, that’s all that matters, right?
But wait, he didn’t look like he was enjoying the game Sunday night during and after the most pathetic two minute drive I’ve ever seen. What gives?
O-4-rated!
Comment by Mike — October 9, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
Anybody know what ever happened to the Favre excuse-o-matic web page?
Comment by Mike — October 9, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
Rob, I’m having a hard time tracking down how many games Favre has had where he has thrown 5 or more interceptions. I’ll continue to research it…
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 9, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Mike, it would appear that all links to the Favre Excuse O-matic are down. If I can find it, I will try to host it here.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 9, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
I’m still confused as to why there has been so much disagreement on this site. The fact of the matter is that Favre is in deed close to breaking the all time interception record! For those of you arguing that some of us don’t have evidence, there are your statistics. You can debate all day long on how great of a player he is now or used to be, but I think this site was created those of us who believe he’s only mediocre due to the fact that he’s had just as many overzealous bad plays as successes. And some of us can’t wait for him to break the all time INT record to prove it.
Comment by brookz — October 10, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Blanda threw 277 interceptions in 4,077 career passes. Favre has 277 interceptions in 8,433 attempts.
Yep. ‘Nuff said.
Comment by PAKRBAKR — October 10, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
129 – I’m still confused as to why there is so much disagreement on this site. The fact of the matter is that Favre is a good quarterback!
…an interception record doesn’t make somebody bad…I believe that Geroge Blanda is in the NFL Hall of Fame…funny, how could somebody so bad (due to interceptions) be in the hall?????
Comment by Russ — October 11, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
131 – Another hof qb with a terrible td/interception ratio…Joe Namath.
173 tds to 220 ints
more dubious td/int ratios among hall of famers?
luckman: 137/132
van brocklin: 173/178
starr: 152/138
tittle: 212/221
bradshaw: 212/210
apparently, among people who know football (the hall voters), stats do not a great player make.
Comment by joybubbles — October 11, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
oh, forgot….
baugh: 187/203
Comment by joybubbles — October 11, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Although I’m sure none of these facts will convince this Favre-hating crowd- Favre has a better ratio of attempts to interceptions (30) than Bradshaw (18), Blanda (11!), Fouts (23), Bob Griese (19), Jurgenson (22), Moon (29), Namath (17), Plunkett (18), Stabler (17), Staubach (27), Tarkington (24), Unitas (20).
Unfortunately, the Bears have never had a great quaterback, so Blanda’s stats were the only ones to compare to. Oh, and lets not forget that Farve has about 150 more touchdowns in his career than any of these guys to boot! I wouldn’t argue that he’s the greatest of all-time (that would be Montana in my book) but too much gets made of the interception stat.
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Hey asshole, you obviously either dont know shit about the game or are a Bears fan (or both). How about owning the TD record? How about TD’s to INT’s? How about his streak of games played in a row? How about his ability to carry a team to the playoffs virtualy by himself?
I have an idead…..who is your favorite QB? Lets take a look at him shall we?
Comment by Bob — October 15, 2007 @ 9:30 am
The only reason you fags hate favre so much is you wish your team had a qb half as good as him.
Comment by Heywood Jablome — October 15, 2007 @ 9:33 am
Are you implying that Favre is the best QB in the league right now? That’s wishful thinking at best. He’s currently tied for 4th in interceptions thrown (6), and he’s in 18th place in QB rating (87.0), Vinny Testaverde has a better rating!
For all intents and purposes, Favre has been outplayed by the following QBs as of week 6: Tom Brady, Jake Delhomme, Peyton Manning, David Garrard, Brodie Croyle, Jeff Garcia, Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck, Derek Anderson, Vinny Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Donovan McNabb and Joey Harrington.
Basically, Favre is playing as well as Brian Griese right now. Is that your definition of the best?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 15, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Funny how you can make statistics say whatever you want them to. Never mind that though Blanda played in more games than Favre, good ole number 4 has twice as many passing attempts. Comparing interceptions per game makes no sense. By your comparison, a QB could play in one game complete 1 of 15 passes with no interceptions and another QB could be 20 of 30 with a couple TDs and an INT and the first QB would be better? No. That is why you should compare interceptions to attempts. Brett Favre averages about 1 int per 30 attempts. Blanda was 1 int per 14.5 attempts.
Just for comparison here are some other “great” qbs: Joe Montana (1 int/39 att), John Elway (1 int/32 att), Dan Marino (1 int/33 att), Joe Namath (1 int/17 att), Johnny Unitas (1 int/20.5 att), Terry Bradshaw (1 int/18.5 att).
Comment by juice32 — October 15, 2007 @ 10:21 am
Just completed the same analysis Juice did with some QBs noted in the clearly biased analysis done by Jason. –
Player attempts int/att td/att
Blanda 4007 14.47 16.98
Montana 5391 38.78 19.75
Favre 8470 30.36 20.02
Dilfer 3004 25.03 28.07
Marino 8358 33.17 19.90
Manning 5055 35.85 17.74
Bastardizing numbers to make your point only reveals you as a d-bag with an agenda. Doing so with analysis so weak that the talking heads on a pre-game show could pick them apart reveals you as an idiot.
Comment by Byte Me — October 15, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Full disclosure. I am a Packer fan and I love Brett Favre. Even at 37, he’s at LEAST a top 10-15 QB in the NFL (although I would still argue that he’s pushing the top 5 this year). That’s no small feat in itself.
I’m new to this site, and willing to look at it with an open mind.
Yesterday, Brett took sole possession of the career INT record by throwing two INTs. So what? The important thing was that the team won the game. Yesterday, Brett threw his 278th and 279th career interceptions. So what? He also won his 152nd career game. Surrounded by very few playmakers in his career (How’d Antonio Freeman do when he left GB? Or Bill Schroeder? Dorsey Levens? How many other receivers or running backs left GB and you’ve never heard of them since?), Brett’s been on winning teams. The only losing season Green Bay has suffered in the Brett Favre era was in 2005 when they went 4-12. That’s it.
Now, Brett owns almost every major NFL QB record. Granted, some of that is because of his longevity. But his longevity has to do with the fact that he’s been the best QB on the team. These are teams that have included Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunnell… god, how many other future playoff QBs? His longevity is because he has always given his team the best possible chance to win.
Someone up there said something about Peyton breaking all of Favre’s records. That’s entirely possible. Peyton wins. He throws for lots of yards and lots of TDs. And he’s been durable. But he’s not there yet. His career is only half of what Favre’s is so far and we only need to ask guys like Trent Green (likely), Troy Aikman and Steve Young how quickly that career can end. And regardless, Marino never made Unitas anything less than he is. Montana never took anything away from Marino. Favre doesn’t have to always be the best QB in history, but he will always be mentioned with them. Regardless of his interceptions. Just face it.
Comment by Rik — October 15, 2007 @ 11:15 am
Rik, well said. While I don’t agree with everything you’ve stated, at least you have a level head about this, and are open to discussion. Too many here are blinded by their Favre love, and refuse to listen or believe anything other than Favre is the best that every played or will ever play.
If you look at my post #113, in the next to last paragraph, you’ll see where I thought that Favre would be in the 11-15 range of all time great QBs. So while you are a confessed Favre fan, even you agree with me that he’s somewhere in that range. What would be so bad about being the 15th best QB to ever play in the NFL?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 15, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Jason, I think you misread a little. I was trying to say he’s in the 5-15 range of QB’s playing in 2007. Career-wise, I think he’s easily in the top 10, maybe top 5. Bottom line… he just wins. High risk, but high reward. Either way, he is as linked to the discussion of the greatest QB of all time as is Marino, Unitas, and Montana — he’ll always get a substantial number of votes.
Comment by Rik — October 15, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Juice32 and Byte Me, if you two are so adamant about listing who is better than Favre by using your own cherry picked stats, then let’s not forget Steve Young in your short list (Steve Young, Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning…)
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 15, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Yes, Favre set a new INT record. Whoop-de-doo! He is adding to his TD record every time he throws one of those, too. Let’s see… 3-time MVP. Super Bowl Champ. You must really have a hard-on for No. 4. Take away about 100 of those INT’s and chalk ‘em up to bad hands on the receivers part. (For the sake of argument, quite a few DB’s have dropped them because of velocity too.) All in all, I’d say the Pack has benefitted more than less because of “Mississippi.” (Jerry Glanville, eat your heart out!)
Comment by CarpieD — October 15, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
It may have been 94 fewer games but let look at real statistics, Interception / pass attempts. Blanda had 4007 career attempts and threw 277 INT. Favre has 8470 career attempts and 279 INT. He has over TWICE as many attempts as Blanda and basically the same amount of INTs. Baseing it on games it purely idiotic!!
Comment by Mike — October 15, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
bottom line is, Favre’s team is 5-1 you dumb ass mother fucker
Comment by Rick Geske — October 15, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
Favre won the league MVP 3 years in a row
can you imagine what he would have done if he wasn’t such a bad qb, man he is awful
Comment by Russ — October 15, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
A little tidbit about the Greatest Green Bay QB ever…perhaps the best QB ever.
By Sal Paolantonio
ESPN
Starr has been dismissed as the caretaker of great Packers teams. Not so. Take a second look by comparing him to Unitas, who posted a career playoff passer rating of 68.9 with seven touchdown passes and 10 interceptions. Starr? He had a career playoff passer rating 104.8, the highest in NFL history, safely ahead of the next best guy, Joe Montana (95.6).
Starr threw just three interceptions in 213 career postseason attempts. And get this: When Tom Brady threw four picks during the playoffs last year, Starr reclaimed the career record for fewest interceptions per pass attempt in NFL postseason history.
Starr — who won more championships than Unitas, Steve Young, Dan Marino and (thus far) Brett Favre combined — is the most underrated quarterback in NFL history.
Comment by Mark — October 16, 2007 @ 8:22 am
Mark, I completely agree. How can Favre be the greatest QB ever when he isn’t even the greatest Packer QB ever?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 16, 2007 @ 9:07 am
jason your a fucking tard, your 138 post was the most fucked up moronic thing ive ever seen. you took the time and pride to list all the QB’s with a higher QB rating then favre at this point in the season, thinking it would make those qb’s look better then favre. delhomme, croyle, warner, schaub and testeverde have not played as many games as favre this season you fucking idiot. testeverde has played 1 game, tell me what favres qb rating for the chargers game was. Also favre hasnt had a bye week yet, manning, roethlisberger, kitna,palmer and a few others have. your comparisons make no sense, your just trying to find the easiest way to make favre look bad, another example… INT’s in games played instead of attempts? what the fuck.
you are officially a fucking retard!
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — October 16, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
marcus #151
your post is a barely coherent rant…but it was pretty fricking funny, made me laugh.
Comment by ADA — October 16, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
sdf
Comment by Russ — October 16, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
You must have forgotten about favre’s 3 mvps which nobody else has done. His most wins for a qb which of course no one else has done even the great montana, young, elway even with their great receivers they had at the time. He is second in 4th quarter combacks ahead of marino, montana, young and all the other”greatest” quarterbacks. So, considering he has as of now 1 more interception than Blanda in double the attempts should lead one to believe that favre is a much better passer than Blanda was. Do the math int/pass att ratio. favre 279/8470= 1int per 30.36 attempts. Blanda 277/4007= 1 int per 14.47 att. Appears that favre is a much better passer don’t you think you f****** dopes.
Comment by matt — October 17, 2007 @ 2:02 am
(From the movie Waterboy where Henry Winkler’s head appears on every offensive player of the opposite team and sings “Water Sucks!”…)
Favre Sucks!
He Sucks!
Brett Favre really, really Sucks!!!
PPPFFFFFFTTTTTT!!!!
Comment by Warren — October 17, 2007 @ 6:54 am
Marcus the Jizzmopper, might I suggest that before you go on a rambling, profanity laden, incoherent rant, you find the difference between “your” and “you’re?”
Thank you for prominently displaying your idiocy and ignorance. You certainly are the epitome of a Favre Fellater.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 17, 2007 @ 10:29 am
Matt, let me help you with the math there… Favre is TWO interceptions ahead of Blanda not one.
You must have forgotten about the 3 Superbowl MVPs Montana has. Was Favre able to obtain that? Oh, you have to win more than one Superbowl to even have a chance at that one don’t you… hell, Favre didn’t even get the Superbowl MVP for the ONE he did manage to win, that honor went to the kick returner Desmond Howard!
Since you brought up the MVP award, which Entity are you going by? The Associated Press, the Pro Football Writers of America or the Bert Bell Award? See, because the only one that gave Favre three was the Associated Press, and the third one was SHARED with Barry Sanders. The other two entities gave it to Sanders only, as it should have been. That third MVP is bogus, and you Favre Fellaters give Favre a pass on it. Much like you give him a pass for being a drug addict and alcoholic because it would sully the image of your perfect God-like player. Give me a break.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 17, 2007 @ 10:56 am
157 – Please stop with the Superbowl MVP argument. The Superbowl MVP is a relativley meaningless accolade that can be achieved simply by being in the right place at the right time (e.g., Dexter Jackson and Larry Brown come to mind). Far more impressive is to consistently prove your worth over an entire season.
Moreover, your ad hominem attacks on Favre do little to further your argument.
Comment by joybubbles — October 17, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
wow jason, now im so sorry i didnt type “you’re” right. Now that that’s out of the way, why dont you comment back, what sense does it make to list the qb’s that have a higher qb rating then favre when half havent played as many games as him? Half of your posts have no logic behind them.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — October 17, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
I am back as I told you I would be. I have compared 29 different quarterbacks from old and new. I compared them in regards to TD/INT ratio, TD/Attempt, INT/Attempt, Completion percentage, and Rating. The top in each category was given a one and the worst was given a 29. I took the average of all categories and determined who was the best statistically at what they did. Here is the regular season numbers. I will post some playoff numbers later. And Jason I used the official scoring from NFL.com to get these stats. As you will see they speak for themselves. I didn’t include Manning, Brady, or any QB without 10 years in the league.
Wins were not factored in as we have established that QB’s don’t win alone.
Steve Young
Joe Montana
Dan Marino
Brett Favre
Jim Kelly
Roger Staubach
Randall Cunningham
Troy Aikman
Dave Kreig
Boomer Esiason
Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
John Elway
Drew Bledsoe
Bart Starr
Dan Fouts
Phil Simms
Johnny Unitas
Bob Griese
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann
Norm Van Brocklin
Sammy Baugh
Terry Bradshaw
John Brodie
George Blanda
Joe Namath
Off of that note I would argue that a QB is not the most important position on the field. His position is not involved in enough plays to be realistically the most important player. Think about it. During run plays he is not actively involved, during punts, kickoffs, returns, FG, defense. Hell the only play that he is really active in is pass plays. Now I know from experience that he is the leader and captain usually but realistically offensive lineman and most defensive players participate actively in more plays then the QB does. So there would be a strong argument on who is the most important player on the field. Now you are getting caught up in the media’s portrayal of a QB being the most important player, just like you fuss at the fact that the media plays up Favre.
The Montana/Young situation was based on the fact that in those games I mentioned where they both played, Montana didn’t contribute statistically what Young contributed and the games were decided by very few points. The only logical conclusion is that the QB that threw 2-3 TDs more then the other should get the victory.
As far as the turnover bit I will respond shortly.
Comment by Randy — October 17, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
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160 – You seem to be confusing the importance of a position with how many plays for which that position is a participant. Although it may be true that the qb is instrumental in a relatively few number of plays (if we concede that he is, in fact, instrumental in only passing plays), not all plays are equal. For example, individual passing plays generally produce more “bang for the buck” than do running plays, and thus can be considered more impactful.
In addition, if the qb isn’t the most important position, who is? Although he may not participate in punts, kickoffs, returns, running plays, field goals, defensive plays, etc., what single position does? Aside from perhaps punts (punter), kickoffs (kicker), returns (returner), and field goals (kicker), what single player has so much to do with the success of an individual play (e.g., the qb on a passing play)?
Furthermore, the qb’s ability to the throw the ball can prove very important to the strength of a running attack. So in some sense, the qb does participate in the running game as well, albeit indirectly.
Of course it takes an entire team to win a football game. But I’m curious to hear what you think is the most important position if not the qb.
Comment by joybubbles — October 17, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
First of all Joybubbles I am not confusing anything. Why do you think pertaining to the list above the overall most winning QB before Favre (Elway), the QB with one of the highest regular season winning percentages (Griese), 4 of the 5 most superbowl winning QBs (Bradshaw Aikman, Starr, Elway) barely fit or are not even in the top 10 statistically.
I am simply stating that a QB is not necessarily the most important position on the field. My argument is simply that there are numerous positions that could be argued. One example is a runningback. Using your same argument about passing opening up a running game you can reverse that and say a good running back will definitely open up a passing game. A runningback runs on running plays, blocks or receives on passing plays and in LT’s position even throws TDs on passing plays. This is just an example as I am not saying that a runningback is the most important. I don’t think that you can blanket the argument and say that the QB is the most important in every situation.
Well pass plays generally do produce more bang for your buck. But you can’t forget the receiver is also a huge part of that play. Yards after the catch is all receiver and has nothing to do with the QB directly. Therefore you bring up a very interesting point. You throw a quick slant to Randy Moss and he leaves everyone because of his speed. Now throw that same slant to some slower receiver and your bang for buck reduces. Now with a better receiver less for the QB can equal more for the overall play. Who is contributing more the QB or Receiver. Hard to judge?
Well first of all an offensive lineman will most likely take part in more plays then any one particular position. He is directly involved in running plays, passing plays and usually is involved with blocking on FG and Extra point and punt attempts (not all offensive lineman stay in but they still directly are involved in more plays then a QB). Most defensive players will be more directly involved then the QB because they have to tackle or get off blocks on run and pass plays.
I am not trying to diminish the real importance of a QB, just showing that the media really plays a large part in fueling what we might think on the surface. I am more interested in what the truth is based on some type of tangible evidence. Great leaders and captains can come from many positions on field and everyone needs to be aware of this fact.
I am not sure which single position I would say is the most important but I will say without evidence (not just an opinion) you can’t just say the QB is the most important position on the field. Again I speak from experience as I played this position all my life.
It is really hard to say. Would you take LT and build a team around or would you take Terry Bradshaw? One is by far a better player but the other has 4 superbowl rings. Was it Bradshaw that made the Steelers win all those superbowls and if you gave LT a hall of fame QB would they win more superbowls. These are speculations but something to think about (Emmitt Smith also has 3 superbowl rings).
I don’t really want to argue about this point because we can debate forever. I just wanted to show this website that based on stats that Favre does indeed rank in the top 10 and right now is sitting at number 5 compared with all-time greats.
I admit he will most likely move a few slots as Manning, and Brady come to the end of their career, granted they stay healthy.
I am not a Favre worshipper but I just call them as I see them.
Comment by Randy — October 17, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
163 – You are indeed confused. You repeatedly say that you speak from experience, as if no one else is doing the same thing. You say that you don’t want to argue the point of most important position, yet you continue to argue it. When you do argue the most important position, you base your assumption on the number of plays in which the position is involved and equate that number to importance. Why should this be the criterion? To be fair, my criterion of the impact of each play should be questioned as well. I thought you might provide arguments for the other positions. I didn’t address them because of course we can all adduce situations in which each individual position is important.
So, as an empirical standard, one simple question might help. Ask anyone what position they would build a football team around. Although we might not be able to do this in practice, a quick survey of the number 1 draft picks might serve as a proxy.
Top 3 positions:
26 QBs
15 HBs
7 DEs
If we can agree that teams with the number 1 draft choice are poor teams in a rebuilding phase, it appears that these teams place most emphasis on the qb. Although alternative interpretations for number 1 draft choices are of course possible, I believe the most parsimonious and probable reason is that the qb position is the overall most important roster spot.
The choice of LT vs. Bradshaw….how is this a genuine choice when you admit that LT is the better player? No, how about a choice between, say, Montana and Payton, or Young and Sanders, or any other reasonable pair…I’ll take the qb.
Comment by joybubbles — October 18, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Listen Jackass. You seem to want to continue an arguement that never was my intention. Now if you really want to do this here you go. First of all what do you mean reasonable. Bradshaw won 4 superbowls and with your analysis that the QB is the most important position then it would be obvious that you would take Bradshaw. LT hasn’t won anything of note. (You couldn’t figure this one out, with all of your language art skill and exciting choice of words. I was questioning the fact do you want a 4 time superbowl winner or LT, a great player with no superbowls to speak of. If the QB is truly the most important position, you would have to go with Bradshaw. A proven winner and a great leader).
Secondly, why from 2000-2007 where QBs repeatedly skipped in the draft for other players. Before the bears selected Grossman they went with a DE–Arizona needed a QB and so did Baltimore–how did they know that Grossman was going to be there. Same thing in 2000 the jets had 3 picks in the first round and took 2 DEs before they took Pennington. Why would Houston take Mario Williams instead of a QB when they were definitely hurting at QB.
(I know, I know these QBs weren’t that good so they let them slip down a few picks only to grab them later. It doesn’t matter, these teams needed QBs and instead of taking them they chose other players)
My points were not meant to lead to a continued argument. I just wanted to point out another angle to look at this particular situation. If you weren’t so closed minded that you can’t just say huh, that is an interesting point and leave it at that then even if you have experience and knowledge of the game your are completely blinded by the mainsteam love for QBs. (they get the win or loss no matter who does all of the work)
Thirdly, I never said that the NFL doesn’t think that the most important player is QB, I just beg to differ.
By the way if you were to poll everyone I would be interested to see if they would all say QB. The Texans chose a offense lineman to start there franchise (Baselli—spelling). Then after they chose a QB in the draft that didn’t work out they didn’t try another, they went with a DE….leaving a college superstar up for grabs.
And sure lets talk about the impact of each play. I definitely agree with you on the bigger bang for your buck however a receiver plays a big part in that play as well. Why didn’t you address this. You act as if the QB throws the ball and is responsible for the receiver running as well.
Look I only stated my experience because I used to think I was the most important player out there. However I have come to realize I wasn’t. That is the only reason I inserted that comment.
One very large reason for QB being selected early if they are remotely good is the limited number. Each football team carries a large number of RB, WR, DE, etc. The QB position is usually not very deep (this combine with the important place on the position). However it doesn’t change the fact they realistically might not be the most important roster spot on the field.
Comment by Randy — October 18, 2007 @ 9:20 am
165 – I’m BORED with dicussing this with you. You presents simple anecotes to support you points. Guess what, the plural of anecdote is not data. I tried to propose an objective standard, but it seems that you have no recourse but opinion.
I would like to address a few things that you have brought up and then you can post last and make yourself feel better, okay?:
1. You say, “with all of your language art skill and exciting choice of words” as if education is a bad thing. The anti-intellectual climate in America is both appalling and baffling. Why do we glorify ignorance?
2. As I’m sure you know, a qb does not make the entire team. It takes a great team to win championships. In fact, how many hall of famers accompanied Bradshaw on his way to winning 4 superbowls? You contradict yourself…if winning superbowls is the mark of a great quarterback (as opposed to td/att ratios and such) why did you not include that stat in your analysis of the best QBs above? Again, Montana vs. Payton or Young vs. Sanders (players who I feel are more comparable in terms of ability) would be more reasonable sets from which to choose.
3. Across the 2000-2007 span, there were 6 qbs taken with the 1st pick. The next more frequently taken position was DE at 2.
4. You say, “If you weren’t so closed minded that you can’t just say huh, that is an interesting point and leave it at that…” Correct me if I’m wrong, but does this imply that if I agree or am reticent with regard to my opinion, I’m thoughtful in considering an interesting point. But if I disagree, I have a closed mind? Why can’t I concede an interesting point and disagree at the same time? Have you tried that before? Perhaps you should follow your own advice.
5. Of course the receiver is important on passing plays. Of course the team is important. These facts are so self-evident, I didn’t feel the need to address them. However, including the backs and tight-ends, you generally have 4-5 receivers and only 1 guy throwing the ball. Which guy would you want to be your best player?
6. Each team carries a greater number of RBs, WRs, DEs, etc. than QBs because 1) there are multiple players at each of those positions on the field at once, and 2) those positions make up special teams units (for which a QB plays no part).
7. You say, “The QB position is usually not very deep (this combine with the important place on the position).” Does this mean that you agree that the QB is important? Your poor sentence structure garbles your point. The fact that the QB position is not deep could make it even more paramount for a team to have a good one. Furthermore, the fact that teams have passed on QBs in favor of other positions makes complete sense if the position is as deep as others. All that indicates is that it’s better to take a good DE (for example) than to take a mediocre QB. It says nothing about how importantly teams value the position. However, with the first overall choice, teams have their pick of the litter. That pick is more often than any other position the QB.
8. Finally, the importance of the QB depends on the level of football. In pee wee, junior high, and high school, I agree that the QB is not as important as, say, a RB. However, given that this site is about Brett Favre, I am assuming that we are talking about NFL football.
Post away until you are satisfied.
Comment by joybubbles — October 18, 2007 @ 10:55 am
Where is your objective data?
1.Your only data that has been presented is number one draft picks. If you are using this stat alone to solidify your case then your argument is very weak. I have presented objective data that will support the fact that QB’s are not involved directly in enough plays to be considered the most important player out there. Your answer to that is subjective. Passing plays give a bigger bang for your buck, well yes they do but they are highly dependent upon another player. Where is your objectivity?
2. Well the theme of this site is that a good quarterback wins superbowls so I was merely comparing what seems to be the gauge of success for a QB to what objectively is a great player. I do not mark QB success by superbowl wins but by their production. (Montana did produce really well but he also had many pro bowl players and hall of famers on his teams (both sides of the ball). Your right I will do a similar comparison on running backs as I did QB and then match up player vs player. From there the correct analysis can be made.
3. I understand that most of the 1st picks were QBs however then why were other QBs passed up for other positions when it was evident that team needed a QB. Then with close following picks they did indeed take a QB. Not everyone is building around a QB.
4. My whole reason to respond on this website was to show that Favre was indeed statistically in the top 10 QBs of all time. My intention was not to argue about which position is the most important because statistically there are ways to determine but realistically it would be too time consuming to deal with. I was merely stating that there are other objective ways to view this proposal. You are the one that prompted me to indulge. So I did.
5. My point again is that the QB is not doing everything on a pass play. It is not a matter of who is the best player the QB or the receiver but that another player besides the QB plays a major role in this particular play.
6 and 7. I do think the QB is important (never stated that he wasn’t). As far as my poor sentence structure I have finished my schooling and unfortunately I am not writing you a narrative so if my structure isn’t good then change my grade to an F….I have no one to impress here with words or sentense structure. However my arguments can and are backed up with statistical evidence.
You are right about the number one overall pick being more often a QB I took a look at the number one picks since 1936 and 28 were QB and 22 were runningbacks or fullbacks. So until 99 there were actually more runningbacks taken first then any other position. Just a little swing in the last 8 years that has made the QB the overall leader.
8. We are indeed discussing the NFL.
Comment by Randy — October 18, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Wow, sorry to break into this between you guys but…
Joybubbles,
Firstly, I wasn’t the one that injected ad hominem attacks into this “discussion.” Others coming here to defend Favre setup those ground rules.
Secondly, if Favre’s (supposed) three MVPs are allowed as a discussion point and proof of his ability, then Superbowl MVPs are also valid. Granted there are Superbowl MVP winners that were at the right place at the right time, or perhaps just pulled off one terrific play during the game that turned it around or cemented the victory for his team; however, are you suggesting that Montana got three Superbowl MVPs by getting lucky? Was Steve Young merely at the right place at the right time by throwing six TDs against the Chargers?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 18, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
Marcus the Jizzmopper, out of the 17 QBs I listed, only four have played less than a full season (6 games) so far (Delhomme, Croyle, Warner and Testeverde). True, some might have a game less than Favre due to a bye week. So 14 out of 17 are out playing Favre, considerably more than half as you suggested, so now who’s the “fucking idiot?”
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 18, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
a game less is still less isent it?
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — October 18, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
oh yeah, so in answer to your well thought out question… you are the fucking idiot
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — October 18, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
168 – Jason writes, “Secondly, if Favre’s (supposed) three MVPs are allowed as a discussion point and proof of his ability, then Superbowl MVPs are also valid. Granted there are Superbowl MVP winners that were at the right place at the right time, or perhaps just pulled off one terrific play during the game that turned it around or cemented the victory for his team; however, are you suggesting that Montana got three Superbowl MVPs by getting lucky? Was Steve Young merely at the right place at the right time by throwing six TDs against the Chargers?”
Read my comment carefully. I don’t recall saying that Montana was lucky. I don’t recall saying that Young was lucky. What I do recall saying is that the Superbowl MVP award can be won simply by being lucky. Luck is a sufficient condition for winning the Superbowl MVP. However, you won’t win a season MVP award by being lucky. For this reason the Superbowl MVP award (which essentially is just a player of the game award) pales in comparsion to the season MVP award. I shake my finger at your straw man of an argument.
Comment by joybubbles — October 19, 2007 @ 10:18 am
Here’s to all you favre haters out there. The only record you guys seem to point out is the interception record. The math is simple. The more you pass the greater chances you have of throwing interceptions. If anyone has the time to do the math, I would be willing to match Favre’s int/pass attempts ratio against any other starting quarterbacks past or present. I would also bet that Favre’s 1/30 ratio is pretty good. I am looking forward to someone letting me know. I will also check on this myself. i love proving people wrong. Of course Favre has the interception record along with the most passes thrown and tds thrown dopes.
Comment by matt — October 19, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Ah! But you see when Dan Marino held the record for Most Passes Thrown In A Career and Most TDS Thrown In A Career, Danny Boy DID NOT have the Most INT’s In A Career as well.
Yet here, the “beloved” Betty Favre does hold the title of “Most Interceptions In A Career”. Period.
Comment by Warren — October 19, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
hey Warren
but favre had the TD record before the bears game when he tied Blanda for interceptions;
What if he had retired or had a career ending injury before throwing the int in the bears game; according to your logic then would you be a betty favre fan?
Comment by ADA — October 20, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Nope, wouldn’t be a Favre fan. And no at that point, Favre wouldn’t hold the “Most Interceptions In A Career”….
But alas, Favre does indeed hold that most laughed at stat “Most F**K-UPS…er, Interceptions In A Career”. HEH HEH HEH!!
Comment by Warren Adams — October 20, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
funny:
Dan Marino Hosts Hour-Long HBO Special Celebrating Favre’s Interceptions
October 18, 2007 | Onion Sports
NEW YORK—Dan Marino, the former Dolphins quarterback, former multiple NFL all-time record holder, and current co-host of HBO’s Inside The NFL, was the host, producer, and head writer of the hour-long HBO special Mr. 278, which aired Monday and commemorates Brett Favre breaking the all-time record for interceptions.
“Join me in saluting Brett Favre for breaking the all-time interception record of 277 set by George Blanda—truly a milestone for the ages,” Marino intoned during the opening montage, which featured Favre throwing some of his most memorable picks. “Some say records were made to be broken—personally, I’ve never believed that—but in any case the career interception mark was believed to be unreachable. It takes a player with an unusual combination of not knowing when to retire, not knowing when to stop trying to rack up the completions, and not knowing when to stop trying to throw touchdowns. And it seems that lucky player is everyone’s big hero quarterback, Brett Favre.”
“I once held all the major records, but I never came close on interceptions,” Marino added. “Also, I want to make it clear that I still have the records for passing yards in a season and in a career, but I have to hand it to Brett: He is now the interception record holder. Congratulations there, buddy.”
Marino began work on Mr. 278 late in the 2006 season, when it became apparent that Favre was on pace to break Blanda’s interception record, as well as Marino’s for touchdown passes, sometime in the 2007 season. When HBO producers balked at the idea of expanding their original planned 30-second supporting segment, Marino offered to work the show without pay and secured advertising commitments from NutriSystem, Papa John’s Pizza, and Isotoner gloves.
“I played in the NFL for many good years, which is why I set records for attempts, completions, and total seasons with 3,000 yards passing,” Marino’s voice can be heard to say as an on-screen graphic displayed the dozens of defensive players who had intercepted a Favre pass. “I even set a record for consecutive 3,000-yard seasons. Brett Favre has broken all of those, largely since he decided not to retire yet. And now, he has one of the most memorable records of all: interceptions.”
Marino then interviewed more than 30 current and former NFL players who had participated in Favre’s record interception streak, including Brain Urlacher, Deion Sanders, Troy Vincent, and John Lynch. Marino devoted special attention to Sean Taylor, who was on the receiving end of Favre’s record-breaking 278th interception, an ill-advised downfield sideline attempt thrown off the back foot, which Taylor neatly high-pointed.
Marino also interviewed players who had intercepted Favre passes in college, during Favre’s high school career in Mississippi, and during Packers training camp. In one poignant segment, Marino tracked down advertising copywriter Leroy Holsapple, the man who may have first intercepted Favre when, as an 8-year-old, he picked off a wild toss across the middle of the field during a 1979 Pop Warner game.
“We’ve seen a lot of interceptions tonight,” Marino said in conclusion as another painstakingly edited Favre interception montage, the ninth and last in the program, played behind him. “Were all of them were his fault? Maybe not—it’s not for us to say. Am I jealous of his record? Maybe. I never considered myself to be all that concerned with statistics, and with my plus-168 TD-to-interception record, I’ll never know what it’s like to be “Mr. 278,” the all-time interception king. Because the man who holds that record, perhaps forever, is Brett Favre
Comment by ADA — October 23, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Awesome find ADA. The Onion is hilarious. I’ve added a link to this story in the main article on this page. I also gave you credit for your find, thanks again!
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 24, 2007 @ 8:32 am
I’m just glad I’m not a Packers fan. No matter how good the team is you know your season will end with a loss in the playoffs with Favre throwing two to four interceptions. Mark my words, this season will be no different. That’s his legacy.
Comment by Mike — October 24, 2007 @ 8:52 am
You’re welcome Jason;
I’m a Favre fan but that article is hilarious especially the part about is first INT as an 8 year old.
Comment by ADA — October 24, 2007 @ 10:55 am
Mike,
The Packers would never even make the playoffs but for favre. And this year the only team better than them in the NFC is maybe Dallas. So while they may lose in the playoffs but they could easily make the super bowl or NFC championship game and that will be better than 95% of the league’s teams.
Not bad considering you’re probably a Vikings or Bears fan.
Comment by ADA — October 24, 2007 @ 11:03 am
ADA,
You’re giving Favre too much credit again. He’s an average QB on a solid team in a weak division and conference. They’d win the division this year with half the QBs in the league, and they’d have a shot at winning it all if they had a QB that didn’t consistently choke in playoffs.
Comment by Mike — October 24, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
mike,
“and they’d have a shot at winning it all if…”
You clearly are giving the Packers way too much credit. What you are saying that the Packers without Favre would have a shot at beating the Patriots and/or Colts in the super bowl. Are you sure that’s what you think? Try again.
Comment by ADA — October 25, 2007 @ 8:52 am
Guys – Just so you know, what you’re doing here is, to Green Bayers, the equivalent of what an American would feel about someone spitting on George Washington’s grave. The big difference is that Washington was a great man who did great things… Farve (spelling intentionally corrected) is just a QB. If you’ve ever been to Green Bay, you’d understand in an instant the sad state of affairs there… streets named ‘Brett Farve Pass’ and ‘Mike Homgren Way’, green and yellow fire hydrants, etc. You get the picture. They’ve taken a great game and made it into their life’s joy or sorrow. I happened to be doing business down in the area of the stadium and, seriously, didn’t notice it until it was almost right in front of me. Guess what? No tingly feelings, no goose bumps, nothing. The way Madden describes it, I should’ve been craving a cigarette shortly after seeing it. Site guys, thanks so much for doing your part to balance out truth and the sports media. In real life, maybe Farve is a decent sort, but I just can’t take the obvious jobbing that the media has done on this. It’s like they need people to be either really great or really bad and will focus their attention accordingly on each guy’s statistics and stories. I’m done now… Green Bay zealots, go ahead and attack me because I’ve spoken the truth about your obvious problem.
Comment by BB — October 25, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Is there an similar site devoted to Tom Brady? He’s having an unbelievable season but is getting the same sort of over the top worship from the media that seems to offend Jason about Favre. Does it bother you as much when it comes to Brady worship, Jason, or does your bias come from a Bears allegiance? How about Devon Hester worship? The media exists to build up (and tear down) stars. Get used to it.
And re:184- It’s sad that you have boost you own self-image by running down Green Bay. Yes, the town lives for Packer football. Yes, by big city standards, Green Bay doesn’t have much else to offer but that could be said about 95% of the country. Like it or not, Lambeau IS a historic place- along with the spaceship that is now Soldier Field, Wrigley and Fenway. There ain’t many places like this left. If you can’t appreciate the places and enthusiasm, you’re just a cynic.
Comment by Deano — October 26, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Deano,
Yet more flawed logic from a Favre Fellater. Most of you assume that I couldn’t possibly have a problem with Favre unless I have a vested interest in one of the other NFC North Teams. Truth be told, I couldn’t possibly care less about either the Bears, Lions or Vikings. So no, I have no allegiance or bias regarding the Bears or Hester. I also am not a Patriots fan. I respect Brady for his skills on the gridiron, and he seems to be a decent guy off the field as well, but I don’t love the guy; especially not in the way you all seem to LOVE Favre.
Is the media giving over the top worship towards Brady? That argument could certainly be made. But let’s compare some stats…
Brady first; right now he has 27 TDs, 2 INTs, 2,125 Yards and a QB Rating of 137.9. Contrast that with Favre: 9 TDs, 6 INTs, 1,715 Yards and a QB Rating of 87.0. So Brady has 18 more TDs, 4 fewer INTs, 410 more yards and a vastly superior QB Rating.
Career stat wise, Brady is in his 8th season, during that same period of time, Brady has thrown 14 fewer TDs than Favre, but also 58 fewer Ints. Their QB ratings are 91.8 for Brady and 83.89 for Favre. 7.19 yards per attempt for Brady and 6.89 yards per attempt for Favre. 3 Superbowl appearances with 3 victories for Brady, and 0 for Favre.
So you tell me, who is playing better this year, who has played better in their career and which is the better QB? Which most deserves the accolades they receive from the media and fans?
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 26, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
R U for real!! get a life dude!! what team R U for!! tell Tom to take is rooster out your mouth!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
sure brady is having a great season, that is cause he is a little grounded this year, seeing as he has you dripping out of his ass!!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
do you like to take it in the face!! maybe we should ask tom!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Jason-
Last time I checked, Favre had two Superbowl appearances and one Superbowl victory…gettting a little careless, aren’t we?
Of course Favre is not having close to the season Brady is. I thought when you started this thing that your main point is that you were sick of Favre being unreasonably “fellated” (to use your orally fixated term- any issues there?)by the media- specifically Madden.
As far as how much we “love” Favre- isn’t that what being a fan is about? It doesn’t mean we’re all blind to his faults. I’m a Packer fan who isn’t old enough to have seen Starr and Co.- he’s the best we’ve had in a long, long time. I grew up with Lynn Dickie! One of my arguments for Favre “love” is that, in his prime at least, he made plays that seemed impossible. Brady is remarkably efficient but I can’t think of one time that something I’ve seen him do blew me away. Which is why, in my book, he’ll never be up there with Marino, Elway, Montana and the like. It seems more like his career is a product of an excellent system and supporting cast- not to diminish his skills, which are enormous but it is entertainment after all.
OK, so you’re not a Bears fan…my point was, there are so many sports celebrities that are overly glorified (and overly vilified), why does Favre get your goat so much? At least he’s had some consistency, for better or worse (mostly better). Last year, the media was pronouncing Ladainian Thomlinson the greatest ever- this year, he looks like one of the Packers backs! OK, not quite that bad.
Whoever your teams are, I hope you can still be naive enough to have some players that you love and don’t just calmly analyze. Without that, sports just becomes a lot of boring statistics.
Comment by Deano — October 26, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
R.L. Deal,
You got me there. I bow to your reasoned argument and superior intellect.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 26, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
first step is walking out the closet door!!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
or shall i say, first step is tommy walking out and pulling You out!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
still didn’t answer my question HOMEboy!! where does your loyalty sit!! maybe you want Favre’s rooster!! ur just envious and want to put it inside u!!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
thank you for shutting the fuch up!!!
Comment by R.L. Deal — October 26, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Deano,
No, not careless. If you read my comment again, I was referring to the time Brady has spent in the league. During his 8 seasons, he has appeared in and won 3 Superbowls. During those same 8 years, Favre has none. Those 8 seasons were the basis for the stats in the 4th paragraph of my comment. Just like the 3rd paragraph was for only this season so far.
The “excellent system” point you use to diminish Brady is the same point I hear tossed out time and time again to diminish other QBs, namely, Dan Marino, Joe Montana and Steve Young. I don’t buy it for those three, and as of right now, I’m not buying it for Brady. The system and supporting cast certainly aren’t hurting Brady, but not just any jackass could take the reins of that team and perform in the exact same manner. Brady certainly isn’t flashy, but he’s a leader, has excellent touch on the short and long throws, has impeccable accuracy, and knows how to read and exploit defenses (assisted by Belichick’s “cheating”?). I believe Brady to be an excellent QB, and if he continues his run he may possibly be one of the best to play the game.
My dislike for Favre started early in his career when he stated during a post game press conference something to the effect of “When this team needs a win they come to me, they look to me to get the win when the game is on the line.” Naturally I’m paraphrasing since I cannot find a copy of that press conference comment anywhere. Also keep in mind that this was during the early 90’s, so finding that would be difficult at best. He also went on to belittle Troy Aikman and Steve Young; two of the best QBs at that time of two of the best teams at that time. His commentary was brazenly obnoxious, cocky, and quite frankly, bullshit. Of course once Holmgren had some time to stomp some sense into Favre’s ass, he quickly apologized the next day. In my mind the damage was done, and his mold cast. I think he got a pass from fans and media alike when stories of his drug and alcohol abuse came to light. I also feel as though he gets too much credit for “making something happen,” when in reality he’s chucking the ball into the air or flipping a ridiculous shovel pass in the hopes that a teammate can reel it in. I also didn’t care for his annual retirement decision. I felt as though that garbage holds the Packer organization hostage and keeps them from making possible moves to better the team for when he does really leave the field for good. Couple all of this with the over the top love from the media, and god-like reverence from the fans, and the whole thing is really quite nettlesome.
With all that being said, I have nothing but respect for the Packer organization and the team’s place in history. I also respect what Curly Lambeau and Vince Lombardi have done for the NFL; and the “frozen tundra” of Lambeau field is one of the few remaining historical NFL landmarks. My reverence and respect for these things just doesn’t encompass Brett Favre.
Bottom line, praise heaped on someone like Brady bothers me less than praise heaped on Favre because I feel Favre deserves it less than most that are glorified.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 26, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Jason-
Alright, I give!!! Brett Favre shall hereby live alone in the Jeffrey Hall of Shame and Academy of the Overrated. He is apparently the only highly praised athlete who made a lot of errors along with the good plays, said some stupid, egotistical things in his 20s, had substance abuse problems and waffled about retirement. For these crimes, in spite of the fact that he has surpassed every quarterback in NFL history in almost every stat, he deserves to be recognized as only slightly better than average due to his interception total. Every football commentator or fan showing any reverence for Favre is simply blind to the facts or irretrievably stupid.
Wow! It feels great to finally see the light!
Thanks, Jason.
Comment by Deano — October 26, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Now that I’ve accepted the induction of Favre into the Academy of the Overrated- I thought Jason might want to consider these other losers from other sports for his scorn…
Baseball-
All time strike out leader- Reggie Jackson
Most walks by a pitcher- Nolan Ryan
Most losses by a pitcher- Cy Young
Most times grounding into a double play- Cal Ripken (followed by Hank Aaron)
Basktball-
Most fouls committed- Kareem Abdul Jabaar
Worst free throw percentage- Ben Wallace (Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq aren’t much better)
I don’t know much about hockey but I bet Gretsky, Orr and Hull own some similar records.
Not bad company.
Comment by deano — October 28, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Glad to see you’re finally coming around Deano!
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 29, 2007 @ 8:07 am
Anybody see that game vs Denver?
He looked good for an overrated 38 yr old.
Comment by ADA — October 30, 2007 @ 8:06 am
That was one of the better games Favre has played in some time. I’ll grant you that, no arguments here.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 30, 2007 @ 8:19 am
You Favre-struck guys just don’t get it. It’s not that he’s a completely bad QB. It’s the over-emphasis that gets placed on everything that he does (EXCEPT things like the INT record). It’s not intellectually honest. In a nutshell, it’s John Madden. Hey, John, the next time someone makes a good throw, try not to say that he looks like Brett Favre. When the same guy throws an INT, does the same guy get compared to Favre. Maybe, just maybe, Tony Romo is Tony Romo and not a future Favre. After all, there are better things to be.
Comment by BB — October 31, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Follow-up: No, I’m not a Cowboys fan in any way, shape, or form.
Comment by BB — October 31, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Thank you BB, well said.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — October 31, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
No BB, it’s you that doesn’t get it. Commentators never talk about Reggie Jackson being the strike out king, Nolan Ryan being the walk king or Abdul-Jabaar being the foul king either. Guess why? It JUST DOESN’T MEAN MUCH in light of all their other accomplishments. OK, so Madden has a hard on for Favre…I say the interception record mentioned on all the NFL round-ups I saw the day he broke it. I read it in the paper. I saw it on the internet sports sites. I doubt that Jason was the first to notice it approaching.
Where was all the supposed Favre worship when media figure after media figure were calling for his retirement for the last three years?
Again, I’m a Favre fan but wouldn’t even put him in the top 5 all-time. Stats aren’t everything. But, if sports figures deserve to be glorified at all, he certainly deserves more recognition than most. And, if he does get over-glorified, maybe it’s because for most of the football loving world he’s been so damn fun to watch over the years- warts and all.
Comment by deano — October 31, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Thank you Deano, well said.
Comment by ADA — November 1, 2007 @ 8:30 am
Although, I dont quite agree with your analogy of other sports figures because strike outs/walks/fouls/missed free throws arent as detrimental to team as are interceptions.
“Commentators never talk about Reggie Jackson being the strike out king, Nolan Ryan being the walk king or Abdul-Jabaar being the foul king either.”
Comment by ADA — November 1, 2007 @ 8:34 am
Brilliant!!! Just brilliant!! I have hated on Favre for years for his interception throwing and it’s like I’ve been talking to the wall. People look at me like I’m the freaking anti-christ for blaspheming Lord Favre. Your point is well made about Trent Dilfer. Fewer INT’s per game and the same number of SB rings. So true!! Yet, where is the love for Trent??? The Packers are on pace to slip into the playoffs in a weak NFC this season. Lets hope Favre can rack up 3 more INT’s in the playoffs so he can be the UNDISPUTED regular and post season interception king. Keep up the great work!!!!!
Comment by Rob — November 1, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
Hey if the Packers make the Super Bowl, I’ll take more interceptions.
Comment by ADA — November 2, 2007 @ 8:07 am
Deano – I didn’t read past your comment about how I “don’t get it”. I’ve been to the sad town of Green Bay. I’ve seen the unbalanced love-fest for Favre by certain media elites. If you still can’t see what the rest of us see, there’s no hope. By the way, your presence on this page speaks volumes… you can’t stand that others aren’t in love with Favre. Most people just wouldn’t visit here.
Comment by BB — November 2, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Thank you BB, well said.
Comment by FreddyMac — November 2, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
A lot of folks like to say that Favre is the interception king. However, he does not throw any greater percentage than any other great QB. In fact he throws a lower percentage of interceptions than most of the greats.
Now to discuss how I came to this conclusion. First I made a list of ten retired great QBs and the guys on the list should be adequate to make my point. They are not my top ten, and they are not even list in the order I would put them in if these were the choices I had to use for a top ten. I was completely unbiased in my choices hoping that this would alleviate the arguing over the retired top ten. They are just a list that I believe we all can agree on as a list of ten of the greatest QBs in the history of the game. Usable to compare stats against Brett Favre too prove or disprove a point.
The list: Montana , Johnny Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Namath, Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Dan Marino, Bart Starr, John Elway
That’s the list I got. And the excel file with the spreadsheet of my Findings is located here: http://pages.suddenlink.net/some1else/greatQBRati
os.xls. The file has been scanned, and I certify it virus free.
Basically what the information on the file show us is all these guys threw a higher percentage (int to total attempts) of interceptions average per year than Brett Favre, except Steve Young, Joe Montana, and Dan Marino. Yes, even Johnny Unitas threw 1.48% more interception than Brett Favre. The highest in the list, seconded closely by Joe Namath but he was drunk, wearing pantyhose and a fur coat.
Brett did throw 4 interceptions per year more than all of them on average. Still not a bad number considering that he has thrown an average of 196 more attempted passes than the rest on average. The stats show that guys that throw the ball more, throw more interception. Make sense to me.
So, yes he has the interception record but the total career attempts record is also owned by Brett. The total yardage record will be his as well by the end of the year.
Comment by ADA — November 4, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Everyone that says Favre is the interception king is certainly correct. Interceptionville, founded by Mr. Favre, currently has a population of 281. The census doesn’t lie. So let’s trot out the same ‘ole crutch for Favre and his INTs; if you throw the ball more you’ll throw more INTs. However, being sloppy and inaccurate with the ball increases your chances even further. Marino has 8,358 attempts with 29 fewer INTs. Elway has 7,250 attempts with 55 fewer INTs… and the list goes on. By all means, throw the ball all over the field if you must, but don’t be a sloppy jackass and loft a rainbow into the endzone where you receiver is triple-covered and be shocked by yet another interception. There’s a reason Favre is Mr. 281, he’s sloppy.
Throwing interceptions destroys your team in the post season. Since 1997, the Packers have won a total of 2 playoff games. Total of INTs thrown by Favre in five playoff losses since 1997, 15! Do you think those 15 INTs have anything to do with the Packers faltering in the post season? In the Superbowl era, the winning percentage of QBs that throw 2 INTs is 32%, 3 INTs is 16%, 4 INTs is 4% and 5 or more is 0%. Favre threw 6 INTs to St. Louis in 2001, he certainly helped the Packers that day. Marino was one of the most productive regular season QBs to ever play the game; his record in the post season, 8-10. He was 7-1 when throwing fewer than 2 INTs per game, and 1-9 when throwing 2 INTs or more. QBs that are the best at holding onto the ball are also the very best post season QBs. Bart Starr threw just 3 INTs in the post season and his record was 9-1. He also remains the highest-rated playoff passer in history with a rating of 104.8!
Terry Bradshaw once asked Tom Brady if he would rather have a game with multiple touchdown passes or zero interceptions. Brady adamantly stated “zero interceptions,” and Bradshaw nodded in approval. Would Favre say the same? He certainly doesn’t play that way. In the 16 years of the Favre era, the Packers have one Superbowl win and 279 INTs to savor. There should be little doubt that if one of those numbers was lower, the other certainly would be higher. Favre’s content to chuck the ball up and hope for the best, if you are a Packer fan, that should piss you off. Protect the ball, manage the game and stop looking for records while being sloppy. But don’t worry, he never misses a game so he has lots of opportunities to throw another INT to screw the team. As a Packer fan you’ve got two options; do you want to watch Favre strive for records, or do you want to win playoff games and get another Superbowl victory?
Now that’s out of the way…
ADA, you can go by your spreadsheet of 10 QBs, but I’ll stick with mine that has 112. Going by INTs per attempt (INT/Att), Favre is currently sitting at #31. TD/INT he climbs to #15. TD/Att he drops down to #35. There are plenty of QBs better than Favre, no matter how you slice the TD and INT pies.
This web page focuses strictly on one thing Favre is prolific at, slinging interceptions. However, what is one stat that we can boil everything down to that tells us how good a QB really is? What stat crosses the different eras of football, and puts legendary greats up against the current stars? If you do a bit of thinking and searching, you’ll see that it’s the yards per attempt average. In general, the higher a QB’s YDS/Att average, the higher his winning percentage. On my spreadsheet of 112 QBs, Favre is #58! Notables in the top twenty: Otto Graham #1, Sid Luckman #2, Steve Young #5, Bart Starr #7, Johnny Unitas #8, Earl Morrall #9, Peyton Manning #10, Len Dawson #12, Roger Staubach #13 and Joe Montana #16.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — November 5, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Before any of you Betty Farve Lovers make your posts…READ THE FREAKING TITLE OF THE WEBPAGE:
IT READS:
Brett Favre Career Interception Record Watch
It doesn’t read “Farve Career TD Record Watch” but(and I’ll type this slowly for you Farve Fans): “BRETT FAVRE CAREER INTERCEPTION RECORD WATCH”
We don’t give a damn about his Career TD’s. Manning or Brady will pass that mark in due time.
So, unless you can dispute that Brett Favre DOES NOT HOLD THE NFL CAREER INTERCEPTION RECORD,(which you can’t dispute!), then why the heck are you posting on this website?
Nough Said.
Comment by Warren Adams — November 11, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
warren,
If Jason doesnt want any contrarian posts let him say so and we will stop. In the meantime:
Favre passed another milestone Sunday, joining Dan Marino as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to throw for more than 60,000 career yards. But unlike the last two weeks, the Packers (8-1) didn’t need a thrilling home-run heave from Favre at the end of the game to win.
Comment by ADA — November 11, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
btw Favre leads the league in total yards with over a 96+ QB rating.
Comment by ADA — November 11, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Warren, have you been paying attention to the last 200 posts? The discussion revolves around whether Brett Favre is one of the best (however you operationalize “best”) qbs ever. This is the case in spite of the name of the website. You have contributed absolutely nothing to that discussion except bad humor and vacuity of expression.
Comment by joybubbles — November 12, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Fine. I’ll contribute then.
Against a poor defense(like the Vikings), Betty looks like an all-star. But in the end, he’s an old geezer who can’t quite pull off the old razzle-dazzle of his “Gun-Slinger” hay days but he still trys it anyway. Yeah he looks good in this NFL but that’s because outside of Brady and Manning, the rest of the QBs suck ass today. The days of Montana, Young, Marino, Elway, and other lower teir but at least solid QBs are apparently a thing of the past. Now a days you have guys like Jeff Garcia who are good veterns but they end up playing for 4 teams and usually those teams suck. Because if they were good in the first place, they wouldn’t need a new vetern QB. I mean back in the 90’s and 80’s having a stable QB was pretty much the norm. Not everybody had a Marino or Montana, but they had a Kosar,a Simms, or a Jim Kelly.
But alas, the normal QBs of today just don’t cut it. They start out with one team for 4 years, after sucking up the place for that time period, they get booted and a newbie gets the job. I mean hell, VINNY FREAKING-COLOR-BLIND TESTIVERTIE is starting games at the age of 40. And he’s like what, 6th in all-time Yardage Thrown? Whoop-de-do. Betty boy still has the same number of Super Bowl rings as Trent Dilfer…ONE. Montana, Elway, Aikman, Bradshaw, Brady even all those guys have more then one Ring which puts Betty pretty far down the list of Top QBs. Cause when it comes down to the QB position, its all about the RINGS.
So in conclusion, you want to say Betty Farve is playing like one of the best QBS in the NFL, go right ahead. Cause winning 3rd Place in an Ugly Competition still means that you’re Ugly.
Comment by Warren Adams — November 13, 2007 @ 12:35 am
Warren,
Your rambling rant is inconsistant.
You impliedly state that Marino is one of the best QBs ever (I agree). But then you point out that “Cause when it comes down to the QB position, its all about the RINGS.”
Here’s some info for you: Marino doesnt have ANY rings.
You need to think about your contributions more, Wendy.
Comment by ADA — November 13, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Ada,
Ah yes, if you read that I put Marino in the same category as Montana, Young, Elway, Etc, I do apologize for it was not my intention.
My opinion of Marino as an OVERALL Quarterback is that he wasn’t that good. Sure, the guy could throw the pigskin like nobody’s business. But the Quarterback position is more then just about throwing the football.
More then any other position in all of sports, the Quarterback position is about leadership. Its about getting those 10 other guys in the Offensive huddle to beleive in the Quaterback. Its about the Quarterback getting the players in that offensive huddle to give 115% on the next down even though its the 4th Quarter, they’re dead tired, and they want to shuffle off to the sideline to mend their achs and pains. And the truely great Quarterbacks are those ones who can continue to lead and inspire those guys not just through the Playoffs, but through the Super Bowl as well. Montana didn’t have NEAR the arm that Marino did, but Marino didn’t have that “Joe Cool” Leadership factor.
Living in Florida, I’ve met people who met Marino and they’ve said the guy was a big jerk, no people skills at all. I’ve seen player interviews and I’ve watched how guys reacted to Marino on the field. Marino lacked the people skills and overall leadership quality that Quaterbacks have to have to get their team through the Playoffs and to a Super Bowl win.
If Marino was a basketball player, it would have been if all he could do was shoot the hell out of the 3 Pointer but couldn’t defend, score in the low post, pass, or dribble to save his life.
So no, I don’t consider Dan Marino to be one of the all time Great Professional Football Quarterbacks Of All Time. One of the greatest “passers”, okay. But it takes more then just passing the football to be a COMPLETE Quarterback. I mean hell, the guy doesn’t even hold any more top records anymore. They’ve all been surpassed by other players.
Warren
Comment by Warren — November 13, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
How the hell do we know what QB’s were good leaders. I am baffled by that fact because unless you have played with the guy and been in game situations with him how the hell would you have a clue. Besides one player may have liked Marino and his type of leadership and that same guy may not have liked Montana’s leadership. This seems to be based the each individual’s experience with that particular player. Management is continually trying to find players that fit together so their can be some type of structure and some type of team play. What if Marino (just an example) did get his players to play 115% but they were just not good enough to get it done. Is he a bad leader or is the management bad? Which is it? These types of measurements are rather hard to quantify and using superbowl rings as a sign of leadership seems hard to validate. If your answers come from the media…well we know how tainted the media is.
Comment by Randy — November 14, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
I know because….I know.
I know all and I see all.
Sometimes this is a blessing… (Seeing Scarlett Johanson in a shower being a blessing. Knowing the key to Super Bowl Wins is another blessing.)
and sometimes its a curse. (Seeing Rosey O’Donnel in a shower would be such a time. Yuck!)
But the bottom line is…I just freaking know.
Comment by Warren — November 15, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Warren,
You’re a funny guy, off your rocker and obsessive, but funny.
Comment by ADA — November 15, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!????
Well, are you? Cause if not, I can go back to stabbing the guy about a gazillion times if that will entertain you. I got no problem with that.
Comment by Warren — November 16, 2007 @ 7:56 am
warren,
you mentioned that marino’s records have all been broken. Guess who most of them have been broken by… BRETT FAVRE IDIOT.
Comment by me — November 18, 2007 @ 12:24 am
um….and your point?
Comment by Warren Adams — November 18, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
from the top:
“While throwing three interceptions to gain the top spot would likely only take Favre a single game, getting to the playoffs again to have the chance is the true challenge, especially with Favre at the helm. ”
umm, No. The Pack is arguably the second best team in the league, and Favre is easily the 2nd best QB in the league this year. I dont think even Warren can deny this fact.
Comment by ADA — November 19, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
*Stats Update (11-19-2007)*
Sunday marked the fourth consecutive game in which Favre’s passer rating has exceeded 100, and over that span, he’s thrown 10 touchdown passes and two interceptions. For the season, he’s completed 260 of 384 passes (67.7 percent) with 19 TDs, eight INTs and an overall rating of 98.6.
Comment by ADA — November 19, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
“So in conclusion, you want to say Betty Farve is playing like one of the best QBS in the NFL right now, go right ahead. Cause winning 3rd Place in an Ugly Competition still means that you’re Ugly.”
Comment by Warren — November 19, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
“Winning third place in a qb contest stills means that you’re a pretty good qb”
Comment by Randy — November 19, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
No chops. If there are 3 QBs competing and you come in 3rd, that doesn’t mean that you’re a very good QB.
Comment by Warren — November 20, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Hey Warren,
What about 2nd or 3rd out of 32?
Cuz this year its Brady (maybe Romo) then Favre.
Comment by ADA — November 20, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
What, you aren’t mentioning Manning? Sure he’s had a couple of rough past two games, but his overall performance is still stellar. I mean come on, Betty’s had a few bad games this year himself.
And that’s one of the keys that Romo needs to prove: consistancy. From what I understand he did okay last year, fowled up majorly in the Playoffs, doing much better this year, but what about next year? Romo just hasn’t been around long enough to really be evaluated yet. The Bucs had a pretty promising rookie named Shawn King at one point. He showed to be pretty good when Dilfer went down. But three years later, the guy wasn’t even in the NFL. McNabb, Hassleback, Palmer all have proven that they aren’t bad QBs over the long hall but are any of them even sniffing the Hall Of Fame?
Or hell, remember Mark Rypien? That lone single, Super Bowl run the guy was just phenomenal as a QB. Lead the Redskins to a 14-2 record and to a Super Bowl victory. But two years later he was just your average journeyman back-up QB.
Still though, yeah, I’ll give Betty that he’s 3rd best QB in the NFL right now. But he’s still farther down the list when it comes to Overall-In-The-History-Of-The-NFL. Way farther down then 3rd.
Comment by Warren — November 20, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Yes pork chop, unfortunately there’s not just 3 QB’s in the league. You have absolutely no point here. Favre is ranked with the best right now and for his career is ranked with the best. It is just that simple. Hate on him, put him down, call him a drunk, addict, whatever….if he wasn’t up there with the best this website wouldn’t even exist. People don’t talk about the mediocre players nor do they spend so much time disputing one hit wonders.
Comment by Randy — November 20, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Michael Freaking Vick….the guy is a Running Back/Wide Receiver playing under center. He could run like a deer but couldn’t pass for SHITTE. Yet before he got arrested, every year the Media would pump the guy up as the best QB to ever play the game. And year after year, sure the guy ran, but his passing ability continued to suck ass. They talked about him every freaking year till the dumb ass was caught with the dog thing.
And oh yeah, the guy’s career highlight was beating the pants off Betty Farve in the over blown “frozen tundra” of Green Bay. Of course Michael “Deaddog” Vick quickly go tput in his place the next game but he sure showed how “special” Farve and the Frozen Tundra was.
Comment by Warren Adams — November 20, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
The media played Mike Vick up so much because of all of his endorsement deals, to increase jersey sales, to sell tickets, etc. This guy was a huge marketing tool for teenagers. The average football watching, season ticket holder, beer drinking fan likes to see the flashy players. Just because the media plays someone up doesn’t mean it is because he is good. There can be other motives. Favre does get a lot of media coverage largely because of his longevity and because he will probably own most if not all QB records in the league. Look at Bonds and all the media hype he got and still gets. He cheated, he lied, and now he is going to pay the piper. However before all of this garbage the dude was a stud. I think he was a 7 time MVP (no championships) and the list goes on. I guess you are going to say he is no good as well. Favre does get favor from a lot of the media but it doesn’t change the fact that he is one of the best.
Lets make sure my point is clear. Vick was definitely a media tool for marketing purposes. Now there is no way you can say the same about Favre. He is not that marketable….a redneck from Mississipi. Well the other alternative is that he is just that good.
Comment by Randy — November 21, 2007 @ 12:04 am
No one pumped up Vick like he was the best QB in the game. He may have been called the most exciting QB but definitely not the best.
Comment by joybubbles — November 21, 2007 @ 8:58 am
11-22-2007 (Thanksgiving)
Green Bay 37, Detroit 26
B. Favre 31/41 381 Yds 3 TDs 0 INT *20 straight completions
Yeah, he totally sucks. I mean, c’mon, that’s 3 games in a row he’s thrown 3 TDs and no picks. He’s gotta be due for one now…
BTW, this site made me LOL!
Comment by Trig — November 22, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Warren and Jason… I never hear you talk about how Favre’s skills are diminished anymore… why is that? Could they possibly not be diminished…? Would it be to much to admitt that Favre is the best in the league right now. Sure you could make the argument of Brady, Manning, and Romo, but Favre has yet to throw a 5 or 6 int game, like Romo and Manning. And as for Brady, look at his receivers, if Favre had those receivers he’d throw the deep ball all day and be better then Brady. Don’t get me wrong Brady is a GREAT qb because of his 3 rings with mediocore receivers. Agreeing with warren that romo hasnt been around long enough to be judged at the top. Manning is also great, everytime he steps on the field it seems he breaks a record. But Favre has all the major ones.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — November 24, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
*Stats Update (11-22-2007)*
Thursday marked the fifth consecutive game in which Favre’s passer rating has exceeded 100, and over that span, he’s thrown 13 touchdown passes and two interceptions. For the season, he’s completed 22 TDs, eight INTs and an overall rating of over 100.
And I’d like to point out the Pack is 10-1
Just the facts.
Comment by ADA — November 24, 2007 @ 5:38 pm
Marcus-MY MAN! How ya doin? How’s the Jizz Moping Industry doin’?
Come on Marcus, you can’t POSSIBLY beleive that Favre’s skills haven’t diminished because of his age?!?!?! You gotta be kidding me! No wait, you’re Betty Farve Cultist and John Madden is your religon’s Pope. Of course you actually beleive that Betty at 38 is actually more miraculas then he was when he was younger and in his prime. Of course you beleive that your God is beyond age and the wear and tare that such mortal sportsstars like Montana, Sanders, Jordan, Gretsky, and Bird were. All these players fell victim to father time, but Farve? Hell no!
Brett’s going to play until he’s 200 years old. And by the time he’s 50, he won’t even need receivers or an offensive line out on the field with him. Brett will just be so awesome that he’ll hike the ball from the Center position, run back to catch it, then throw the ball 90 yards down field, where the One-True God Brett Favre will be waiting in the end zone for his own pass! Hell, after 100, Brett won’t even need a defense! The Green Bay Packers will just list one man on their roster: Brett Farve. Cause Farve just gets better and better as he ages! All hail Brett Favre!!!
SHHHIIITTTEEEE! That’s why everyone else thinks you Farve fans and John Madden are all retards who need to be placed in special padded rooms at night. At 38 years old, going on his 17th NFL Season, and Farve’s skills aren’t diminshed? How about he’s facing the Lions and the Vikings? Call me back after he’s faced Dallas or the Pats.
Oh, and if Brady or Manning don’t break all of the passing records currently held by Brett Favre, then current Florida Quaterback Tim Tebow will shatter them all when he gets to the NFL. DAMN THAT GUY IS AWESOME!! I haven’t been much of a Tebow worshiper/beleiver until I saw that first series against FSU today. DAMMMMMNNN!!! That Meadows guy starts jawwing after slapping Tebow upside the head. Next play, Tebow scrambles for a 1st Down and after a rough tackle, Tebow jumps up telling that Meadows guy to shut up! Two or three plays later, Tebow should have gotten sacked, but he runs free and RUNDS INSIDE as opposed to cutting out towards the outof bounds line for the TD. Next Series, Tebow makes a PERFECT pass to his receiver for the long TD! Running and passing? Tebow is going to be everything that the media pumped Mick Vick up to be. He will be Tim “Playstation/XBox/KING OF MADDEN” Tebow.
Comment by Warren Adams — November 24, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
Just classic. LMAO.
“Brett’s going to play until he’s 200 years old. And by the time he’s 50, he won’t even need receivers or an offensive line out on the field with him. Brett will just be so awesome that he’ll hike the ball from the Center position, run back to catch it, then throw the ball 90 yards down field, where the One-True God Brett Favre will be waiting in the end zone for his own pass! Hell, after 100, Brett won’t even need a defense! The Green Bay Packers will just list one man on their roster: Brett Farve.”
Comment by ADA — November 24, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Yeah, that’s definitely Warren’s most funny post to date.
Comment by joybubbles — November 24, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Thankyou warren for not putting up a fight, good try though!
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — November 25, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
yes at 38 Favre’s talent HAS diminished, yet he is still more dominating right now than Manning, so if Manning makes it to 38, the length of time it would take him to break FAVRES records, his talent will be so far gone and he will not even get close!! i will not even bring up Romo’s name, because he cannot hold the big 3’s jocks right now!! its only his 2nd year!! now as far as Brady….he could only hope he has the longevity Favre has had!! now this idiot that brings up the kid Tebow!! yes Gumby, all QBS that are great in college come to the NFL and are great!! put the pipe down dude!! he is a Grossman or Rattay or however many more bust that came through the ranks as great college players!! so in conclussion, Favre’s talent has diminished, but i would still take him every day and twice on gameday!!!
Comment by coogaa — November 27, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
you are a piece of shit. Favre is the best quarterback of all time. Who cares how many interceptions he has thrown. All that matters is wins and he is all time for that so fuck you asshole your just jelous you piece of shit.
Comment by Tommy — November 28, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
In frozen tundra of Green Bay there are only 4 things to do in winter:
1. Watch The Brett Favre Packers.
2. Eat Brautwurts.
3. Drink Beer.
4. Freeze to death in the snow trying to “push the goat over the town cliff”
I’m guessing Tommy here did a little too much of option number 3 before he attempted option number 4. Hope the goat wasn’t hurt.
Comment by Warren — November 29, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Mmmm. Let’s see here. Brett Favre finally faced a tough defense as opposed to a pussified junior college defense found at Detroit and Minnesota. Lets see what awesome stats that the GREAT, GOD Brett Favre produces against the Cowboys…
5 completions, 14 Attempts for 56 yards and a 35.7 completion percentage…oh, and we can’t forget 2 MORE INTERCEPTIONS ADDED TO THE CAREER INTERCEPTION RECORD for a total QB rating of 8.9
Well, golly, if those are God like stats then what would be the average QB stats…at random here lets take a look at Buffalo QB Trent Edwards (WHO THE HELL?!?!) did against Dallas….
23comp/31attempts for 176 yards, completion percentage of 74.2%, one interception and a QB rating of 74.1
Gee, Trent Edwards had better stats then the Great Brett–BETTY FREAKING FARVE?!?! Now no, this obviously does not mean that in their primes, that Trent Edwards is/will be better then Brett Farve in his prime. I will not say that. Brett, I still beleive is at least 3rd best…maybe 4th or 5th best now in the current NFL. But I will say…
SAY IT YOU FREAKING BETTY FARVE WORSHIPPING FREAKS! SAY IT YOU BRAUTWORST SMOKING, FROZEN BALLED, TUNDRA STROKING BETTY FARVE FANS…BETTY FARVE’S SKILLS HAVE DEMINISHED!! BETTY FARVE IS NOT EVEN THE BEST QB IN THE CURRENT NFL!!! BETTY FARVE CAN’T EVEN HOLD JOE MONTANA’S JOCK STRAP!!!!!
SAY IT…SAY IT!!!!!
Comment by Warren — November 30, 2007 @ 8:48 am
news for Warren
-Favre was also injured for 2 1/2 quarters.
One of his interceptions he was hit,(wasnt his fault)
its not bratwurt or bratworst. It’s “Bratwurst”
and
Let’s stop with the non-intellegent sterotypical insults that you spend so much of your time trying to come up with.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — November 30, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
Preface: If the arm injury was super-serious, this wouldn’t be funny. But it isn’t so it is. If you can’t take a joke…
Farve doesn’t seek 2nd opinion -
AP Green Bay, WI November 30th, 2007
Reeling from the double-sting of last night’s loss to the Dallas Cowboys (37-27) and the injury to his throwing arm, today Brett Farve (spelling corrected) made the difficult decision to have his right arm amputated. “I remember San Fran’s Ronnie Lott had an injury to his little finger and decided to have part of it removed instead of being kept out of the game. Doc Hackit said I should do the same. Yip – cabbage!” There was mixed reaction from those onhand, but Packers head coach Mike McCarthy brought it all into perspective. “It’s my understanding that there are people out there tracking “interceptions”. With the abscence of Brett’s throwing arm, we will have effectively stemmed the tide of these “interceptions”.” Although McCarthy wouldn’t clarify his reference, it is thought to be Jason Jeffrey and his “gun-slinger” web page. A statement from Dr. Hackit showed reason for optimism with some caution. “Our only reservation is that Brett could experience “phantom throwing” after the operation, much like amputees feel phantom pain. The arm is gone, but the mind continues to function as if it were there.” And where there are throws, there are interceptions.
Comment by FreddyMac — November 30, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
That’s funny as hell FreddyMac!
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — November 30, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Not that I particularly care but I got to tell you freddymac, amputation is not funny. And unlike some I can take jokes at favre’s expense, in fact I think Warren is the funniest guy ever. At the end of the day, its just a game and I have to pay my mortgage no matter what favre does on sundays.
In any event, warren is right Favre’s performance against a solid Dallas defense sucked; hopefully he’ll avoid the SI jinx.
Comment by ADA — December 6, 2007 @ 11:11 am
Awesome packer defense + 2 pro bowl wide receivers + easy schedule = good year for favre
good quarterback, but terribly overrated.
Comment by Darryl — December 15, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
uh, 12 – 2. Not only interceptions, but every other QB record. Yeah, just a flash in the pan.
What have you ever done?
Comment by Just the facts — December 17, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
what nobody even mentions this,
cmon Warren give credit where credit is due,
With a 7-yard pass to Driver in the fourth quarter on Sunday, Favre became the NFL’s all-time leader in passing yardage, breaking Dan Marino’s mark of 61,361 yards.
Favre finished the game with 227 yards passing in the 33-14 victory over St. Louis to move 44 yards ahead of Marino at 61,405.
Over the past two seasons, Favre has now broken Marino’s marks for career attempts, completions, yards and touchdowns. The completions record came last year, while the others have been this season, including the TD record in Week 4.
Favre also broke John Elway’s career record for victories by a quarterback in Week 2 this season.
With this latest record, Favre was as humble as he’s been for the others, all of which he said would never have happened without his ironman playing streak, which now stands at 251 consecutive regular-season starts.
“I’ve said this all along and will continue to say it, I’ve never considered myself in the same league as Dan Marino,” Favre said. “What a great passer, maybe the greatest passer ever.
“The way he did it is probably the way you would coach another guy to do it. The way I’ve done it, I don’t know if you would coach guys to do it that way. But it’s worked for me, and to be mentioned in the same breath with him is quite an honor.”
Comment by ADA — December 17, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Here we go… another Favre love-fest! Give credit where credit is due, but don’t over-do it either. That’s the worst! I see it every week on Sportscenter. Maybe ADA and Just the facts should get a room!
Comment by Tom T — December 20, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Wow Tom T, here we go with the useless insults again. ADA and Just the Facts should get a room just because they both are giving credit to Favre. How was he overdoing it, he was pointing out the records that Favre broke, he wasnt sayinig “hes the greatest passer because he broke these records”. he mentioning that favre broke those records and thats why he IS a great QB. Shall we just say you and warren should get a room?
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — December 20, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Hey Marcus…watch it! Tom T wants to “give credit where credit is do”?!?!?! You know I’m not THAT soft! Like I said, and as was pointed out in the GB vs. Dallas game, Betty Farve is overrated. Now, if he gets into the SuperBowl and they don’t get blown out, then I’ll admit that Ol’Betsy there deserves at least top 10 mention. Till then….
Farve sucks!
He sucks!
Betty Farve really, realy sucks!!!
Comment by Warren — December 21, 2007 @ 9:03 am
Warren #258,
I expected a much funnier incoherent rant than that. I think you’re going soft on Favre; maybe you are a closet favre lover?
Comment by ADA — December 21, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
Please explain the nick-name “Lorenzo”??
I live about an hour away from interceptionville (green bay, Wi) and I love watching bretty throw all those interceptions……I mean they could have actually renamed the team the GREEN BAY TURNOVERS back when they had the bumbling, fumbling idiot (ahmann green) to add to all those bretty favre interceptions! yet up here all you get is “brett just takes more risks, that’s why he throws more interceptions?” It’s a never ending blind defense to justify his arrogance and willingness to lose multiple games based on typical brett favre interceptions!! Keep throwing those interceptions bretty, I’m enjoy the pick parade!!
Comment by Jim — December 21, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Lorenzo is Favre’s middle name. Brett Lorenzo Favre.
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — December 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
ok fine, Favre sucks. That Bears game was brutal.
here we go, now:
Farve sucks!
He sucks!
Betty Farve really, realy sucks!!!
lets see how the playoffs shake out.
Comment by ADA — December 23, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
LOL PRETTY FUNNY TO SEE A HOW BUNCH OF LOW LIFES HATING AND TRYING TO BRING FAVE DOWN, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, BRETT FAVRE WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE GREATEST FOOTBALL PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME. SO KEEP ACTING TUFF AND TALKING SMACK ABOUT FAVRE, BESIDES IF YOU TALK ABOUT BRETT FAVRE SUCKING YOU MUST REALLY NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.
AND ARE YOU GUYS IDIOTS? LOOK AT HOW MANY ATT. BLANDA HAS AND HOW MANY FAVRE HAS. AND BESIDES LOL THE VIKINGS AREN’T GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS, THE BEARS AREN’T GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS AND NEITHER ARE THE LIONS, GUESS WHO IS? THAT’S RIGHT, BRETT FAVRE AND THE PACKERS!!!LOL
Comment by LOL — December 31, 2007 @ 2:13 am
No you smelly-ass bung-hole (that would be you “LOL”), the Packers are going to the Playoffs BECAUSE their compeition were the lowly Vikings, Lions, and Bears and DESPITE Lorenzo herself. Ya see chops, had the Pack been in a real division and had real opponents, they’d be lucky if they had freaking two wins. Hell, did you actually watch any game where Betty went against a real defense? For example, what happened against Dallas? That’s right…FARVE GOT HIS FREAKING ASS HANDED TO HIM ON SILVER FREAKING PLATTER!! Shoot, shitte-stain, even against the Bears defense old Lorenzo was pretty worthless. The only reason the Bears didn’t win is because their QBs suck worse then Betty. Shitte, the Dolphins would have had an 6-10 record this year had they played in the NFC North Division against the Lions, Bears, and Vikings!
(LOL, could you stop that thing with the goat for just one minute and pay attention?) Betty Boy is the SECOND most overrated QB in history. Since Mike Holmgren left the Pack, what has Betty and the Pack done? That’s right. Just like you not getting a sniff of being laid, Betty and the Pack haven’t even got a SNIFF of the Super Bowl. Hell, even the MOST Overrated QB in NFL History, Mike “Dog-Killa” Vick went in to Betty’s own house on LAM-DOH! FIELD and bio-itch slapped the snott out of the Pack in his only playoff victory.
Yeah, Betty Farve, considering his entire career, is one of the best QB’s in history…If you expand that list to “The Top 20 QB’s Of The NFL”. Heck, considering the competition that Lorenzo faced during his career, a top 10 QB would have broken all of Marino’s records about 6 years ago! Come on, Betty faced the suck ass teams of the Vikings, Bears, Lions, and Yucs twice a year though out the 90’s. The Vikings were good like two years when. Except for Barry, the Lions were NEVER a good team. Save for just last year, the Bears sucked ass since 1990. And the Yucs were the worst franchise in NFL history until 1999 under Dungy. Even then, when the Bucs were good, they were taken out of the NFC North division so the Pack wouldn’t have to play them!
Comment by Warren Adams — January 1, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Warren,
I agree the pack had an easy schedule this year but they did beat 3 playoff teams pretty handily too, giants, skins and chargers. And they crushed alot of decent teams too,
Like I said lets see what happens in the playoffs. I think the packers will beat the cowboys. How about if the pack wins it all, you buy drinks for all the favre fans here?
btw what’s your fav team?
Comment by ADA — January 1, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
ADA,
Couldn’t let my “fans” down with out a good insult laden rant in response to “LOL” there. But yeah, lets see what happens in the playoffs.
If the Pack get to the Super Bowl, I’ll type “Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL” a hundred times, I’ll move Brett up to “Top 10″ on my list(”Top 5″ if they win), and buy all you Favre fans a drink. If they get to the Conference game, I’ll type it 50 times, Farve moves up to “Top 10″ on my list and buy you a water.
I was born and raised near Tampa so I was a Yucs/Bucs fan. And I even have an old Pumpkin Orange and white hat with the winking Bucco Bruce to prove that I was rooting for them back when they DEFINED what the term “SUCK ASS FOOTBALL TEAM/FRANCHISE” meant. I rooted for them when Tony Dungy coached them. But I hate…no, make that LOATHE John “Constipated-Face” Gruden. I can’t stand the guy from the “Constipated And I’m Trying To Squeeze It Out” face he makes all the time, to the cursing out at every player for every little thing, to his piss poor player selection(He got lucky with Garcia. Most turn out to be Charlie Garner and are too damn old to play), to his wake up at 3AM to study tape (yeah, that did alot of good when the Bucs went 4-12!), to his complex and yet shitte-stained play system. Talk about a guy who benefits from having a weak schedule!! That and the fact that the rest of the NFC South Division sucks is the only reason the Bucs won more then 3 games this year! You just watch, Gruden will get his ass handed to him in the Playoffs and then get it handed to him again next season when the Bucs have to play a tough schedule. So until they let “Chucky” go, I find it hard to root for the Bucs.
But for now, I live in Jacksonville and where I married a big Jaguars fan. Since she yells like crazy for Jones-Drew and along with my company’s well placed club seats, I root for the Jags alot. Actually, they’re my dark horse team this year. Save for the Pats, I think they could take anyone else in the AFC. And if they play the Pats in the snow where Brady and Moss aren’t as relevant, I think the Jags might give the Pats the scare of their lives and come pretty damn close to winning.
Warren
Comment by Warren Adams — January 2, 2008 @ 12:54 am
Fair enough; and if the Pack loses their first game and Favre throws at least one pick I’ll begin all future posts with:
Farve sucks!
He sucks!
Betty Farve really, realy sucks!!!
And I can tell you I know a bunch of Patriot fans shaking in their boots at the prospect of playing the Jags.
p.s you’re a lucky dog for marrying a big football fan. My wife couldnt be less interested which leads to tense sundays since I usually have to go to a bar to watch the Pack since I live in NYC.
Comment by ADA — January 2, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
DAMN IT!!! THOSE FREAKING, F’ING NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS!!! I HOPE THEIR PLANE BACK HOME SLAMS INTO SEWAGE PLANT ON THEIR WAY HOME FOR THAT GAME AGAINST THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS!!!
10 POINTS?!?!?! THAT’S ALL THEY BEAT THE BUCS BY?!?!? WHAT THE HELL?!?!!? WHY COULDN”T THEY HAVE TROUNCED THE BUCS 42-0??? DAMN IT!!! NOW THE GLAZERS MIGHT ACTUALLY KEEP THAT OVERBLOWN PIECE OF GARBAGE NAMED JOHN GRUDEN AS A HEAD COACH FOR NEXT!!! DAMN IT!!!
I called it all year! I said Gruden and the Bucs this year was overrated. I said the only reason they even had the record they had was because they were playing one of the weakest schedules in the league. I called it that once they got in to the playoffs and faced a real team, that they would get beat down. And low and behold, what happens in the first round of the playoffs? Gruden and The Bucs lost!
But will anyone call for Gruden’s head? NO! “He did the coaching job of his life this past season and took his team to the playoffs.”, they’ll all say. Hello? They went 9-7 in the 2nd weakest division in the League against one of the weakest schedules in the League!! 143 year old Vinnie Testeverde started for the Panthers while Atlanta actually started Byron Leftwich? That’s your divisional competition?
Now just watch as the Bucs go 4-12 next year…again, because of the tougher schedule. There will be a few calls for Gruden’s head but they’ll claim “Remember the great coaching job he did in 2007? Lets give him one more year.” And so the bucs will do well again against the easier schedule that comes from a 4-12 prior season. So then Gruden will look like a “genius” again.
FIRE THE MORON NOW!!!
Comment by Warren Adams — January 6, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
All you haters eat it. Favre is poised to break another record. He is only 2 shy of Jim Kelly’s all time playoff interception record. And knowing Favre’s playoff past (2-5 and 14 INTS since 1998), he should secure that record in the first quarter.
I’m just so sick of the negativity on that guy. Just because he shatters Blanda’s interception record and doesn’t win big games, and holds his team hostage, and is completely arrogant, people think they have a free pass to knock him. Knock it off.
Comment by Action Jackson — January 8, 2008 @ 5:16 pm
The Brett Favre Career Playoff Interception Record Watch page has been created!
http://jasonjeffrey.wordpress.com/brett-favre-career-playoff-interception-record-watch/
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — January 9, 2008 @ 10:06 am
BEHOLD: LET THE BRETT FARVE ANNUAL RETIREMENT HOSTAGE SITUATION…BEGIN!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3190386
or go to espn.com and look for the article titled: “Favre could return for ‘08 season”
Damn Betty, you haven’t even finished the season, you haven’t even finished the playoff game, and you’re already starting “The Annual Favre retirement speculation saga”? Easy boy, easy! No need to pile on that Career Interecption Record. You’ve already got it well in hand. No need to pad it by playing yet another season and this time against tougher opponents!
My favorite part of the article was the coach’s response to the Farve comments:
“I’m trying not to laugh, but I have not been part of any conversation with Brett on that topic,” McCarthy said. “And I think we need to just move on and focus on Seattle, because that’s what we are focused on. I’m sure that’s what he’s focused on.”
Ya see guys you can look at this two ways:
#1: Brett is intentionally stirring the pot just for the hell of it. That’s so nice seeing as the rest of the team needs to concentrate on the upcoming game with Seattle!!!
or #2: The damn Betty Favre media lap dogs are so busy worshiping Betty that they don’t care about the game against Seattle. Aka they love to blow Betty up so much, that they don’t care about the team, the Green Bay Packers.
Either way, nice going there Lorenzo, way to keep the focus centered where it should be. Good luck against the Seahawks and good luck on breaking Jim Kelly’s Career Play-off INT record!!!
Comment by Warren Adams — January 10, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
Just a horrific dissapointing performance by Betty Favre in a playoff game against the Seattle Seahawks. Not to mention he was matched against a good defense and harsh weather. Three touchdowns, no interceptions with only 5 incomplete passes and 173 yards, leading in a rout win by 22 points. Poor performance wouldnt you agree Warren?
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 12, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
And Favre is officially on Warrens Top 10 all time QB list, and would agree to type “Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL”.
Where’s My Water?
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 12, 2008 @ 7:43 pm
Three touchdowns, NO INTERCEPTIONS, NO INTERCEPTIONS, with only 5 incomplete passes and 173 yards, leading in a rout win by 22 points.
Bret Favre rocks and is one of the greatest QB in NFl history. Say it you silly favre hating bitches. SAY IT BITCHES!! SAY IT!! SAY IT!! FAVRE ROCKS!!!
Comment by ADA — January 12, 2008 @ 8:53 pm
Brett Favre is one of the top 10 QB’s in NFL History.
There, I’ve said it. I’ll type my 50 sentances by the end of the week (got a shitte load of work this week, so I’m asking for an extension.)
Gotta admit the old Favre looked pretty good. And as much as I love a sunny Florida day, it was pretty awesome to see them playing in the swirlling snow. I’d say “He’s only facing Eli Manning and the Giants” but damn if the G-Men haven’t done well for themselves. Should be a good game.
I’d take more time but right now I just wanted to show that I’m man enough to take it.
Comment by Warren — January 14, 2008 @ 8:55 am
LOL,
All right Warren, you get props and we’ll give you an extension but you know next week you might have to type it 100 times. I suggest you start typing ASAP (and no cutting & pasting).
“If the Pack get to the Super Bowl, I’ll type “Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL” a hundred times, I’ll move Brett up to “Top 10″ on my list(”Top 5″ if they win), and buy all you Favre fans a drink. If they get to the Conference game, I’ll type it 50 times, Farve moves up to “Top 10″ on my list and buy you a water.”
Comment by ADA — January 14, 2008 @ 11:51 am
Right on Warren, G-men have been playing outstanding football. It really should be a great game.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 14, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
The Green Bay Packers “THE GIANT KILLERS” they are going down like a high school girl at prom wonder what records Brett will set this week. Where are those darn BEARS playing this week??? oh yeah thats right nevermind haha!!!
Comment by Jason — January 14, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Did Favre set or tie the record for interceptions in the playoffs? I know he’s close. That’s his legacy – choking in playoff games. Kinda sad really.
Comment by Mike — January 20, 2008 @ 11:24 pm
Mike:
He tied it tonight. It’s an unfortunate possibility that he will never get a chance to touch the record.
Comment by Action Jackson — January 20, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
I’m glad all the Favre fans continued to chant the “interceptions don’t matter” mantra this entire season. In the second play during overtime, they were shown what the true Favre legacy is. Do any of you still think that slinging interceptions, horrible passing accuracy and “chucking the ball and praying for the best” don’t matter? That’s what you get from Favre. I hope all of you Favre fans are happy now.
Lifetime achievement in the playoffs for Lorenzo: 10-12, a losing effort; and now he’s tied for most interceptions thrown in the playoffs.
See my earlier comment for further impressive stats:
http://jasonjeffrey.wordpress.com/brett-favre-career-interception-record-watch/#comment-16123
Comment by Jason Jeffrey — January 21, 2008 @ 9:14 am
Well look at that, “the pack is back!!” I have one KEY statistic for all you brett LORENZO favre lovers: Eli Manning has NOT thrown an interception in the playoffs this year, that is a big reason the GIANTS have advanced to the Superbowl!! brett lorenzo favre on the other hand, once again put his entire team down with that Typical, Ignorant – Ass – Arrogant Interception!!! That’s why he’s the All Time N.F.L. Interception King!! Wait a minute, he threw 2 more interceptions yesterday; which makes it a grand total of 290 career interceptions so far!! Now that Sucks!! C’MON green bay…. rename them The GREEN BAY TURNOVERS, it fits so well!!
Comment by Jim — January 21, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
The green bay turnovers, wow so creative Jim. and whats with the emphasis on his middle name? must be funny? almost as funny as “ignorant ass arrogant.”
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 21, 2008 @ 9:19 pm
Ok, clearly Favre blew it at the end but arent you guys at all even slightly impressed with the year Favre had at 38? The Pack went to the NFC championship game and lost in OT that’s pretty good in my book. And if you think the Packers would have had the year they did without Favre you need to lay off the crack. Admit it, you guys were shocked at how good a year favre had.
And Jim, I dont get it, you want the Packers to do well, win, go to the super bowl just so favre can set an interception record? you seem a little off to me.
from the other thread: “Additionally, I’m pretty disappointed that the Pack could not pull it out tonight. I feel with one more game, Favre couldv’t got the coveted playoff INT record and left Kelly in his dust.
Comment by ADA — January 21, 2008 @ 11:22 pm
Hey jizzsucker, or jizzmopper or whatever you do with jizz….sounds to me like you may still have some in your mouth, yet, you have anything nothing to add??? what gives? c’mon jizzmopper you must have something better than that to defend Mr. INT!!??!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
ADA – Fist of all, favre did have a good year, the best year he has ever had, that being said, it(the interception that blows the season) was bound to happen at anytime.
You say you don’t get it……and I can see that you don’t get it, and I’m sure that’s one reason you defend favre!…….I do NOT care at all how the packers do, I do not care to see favre go to the superbowl but I certainly do enjoy watching him struggle in the regular season and playoffs losing with his poor decision making that once again ended the packer’s season by that typical lorenzo favre interception!! Does that seem off to you or are you still confused?
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
290……..do I need to say more? He blew the game for them….AGAIN
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
I bet all you favre fans would give up all of those individual records farve has, in trade for that playoff game if it only could have been a win? Oh well they lost and yes Mr. 290 you are correct; he blew it again, just ask jizzmopper, he has it in his mouth!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Jim….. I can clearly see you are one smart guy! I don’t get how these people can think larenzo is so great. If you stay in the NFL for 15 plus years and throw the ball around like you don’t have a care in the world, you will end up with some passing records. Brenda Favre has to many of the bad records too and doesn’t win when it counts. If you want to talk about a true winner, lets talk about Montana…..
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 7:15 pm
Mr.290 -
Agreed, . …on any given day I would take Brady, P.Manning, Elway, Marino, Montana, Young, and many others before I would even look at favre!! After all, what do they always say, “It’s a game of turnovers” and look at who leads the n.f.l. with 290 interceptions: brett Lorenzo favre!!
Well look at that, I just posted comment # 290, Imagine if all these comments were interceptions!!
favre Sucks!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
Jim
Very well said. I, also would take any of those quarterbacks. I wonder why he never won any more superbowls than he did? OH yeah, I remember……. He sucks!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
All of you who have a problem with Favre, need to shut the F***!!! UP. Instead of worrying about what Favre is/isn’t doing. You all need to be worried about how your teams can improve and maybe take a page out of Favre’s playbook. No other quarterback has accomplished what Favre has in the last 17 seasons.
Comment by Paulo Felten — January 22, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
Paula Fagten
He sucks………deal with it!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 7:47 pm
Easy there Paulo -
I’m certainly not at all worried about what favre is doing because he’s doing nothing, his season is over due to him and his dumbass interception problem!! 2nd of all I’m not worried about what he isn’t doing either which is throwing more interceptions to add to his embarassing total!! As far as taking a page out of favre’s play book, that would not be tough,folow these steps: 1st.) take a 5 step drop. 2nd.) pull the ball back in throwing arm. 3rd.) lift head towards the sky and chuck it!…. hell that in itself may get you 50/50 odds?! paulo, he sucks, go look in the mirror and tell yourself that, really, it’s o.k. to admit it!! Favre Sucks
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 7:57 pm
Jim, Mr. 290 I hate to break up this dick sucking contest you have going between the two of you but if the pack does well, goes 13-3 wins a playoff game, goes to the NFC championship and almost to the super bowl its because of favre.
Think about what you’re saying carefully: “I dont care if the favre goes to the super bowl as long as struggles”. Yes, grasshopper you are a bit off.
You can go back to blowing Mr. 290 now.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
Hey ADD
He blew the game!!! Face the facts.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
Mr.290, pull Jim’s dick out of your mouth and read my comments at #212.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:07 pm
ADD
don’t you wish he could win the big game for you? jim is a smart guy, its not my fault he is right.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Now Now, A.D.A. -
Please reread what I typed, maybe hooked on phonics did not work for you!!
I said – I do NOT care to see favre go to the superbowl but I certainly DO enjoy watching him struggle in the regular season and playoffs!! that is what I said dumbass!! A.D.A…… all along I’ve been curious what that stood for = A DUMB ASS!!
As far as 13-3 goes, so what, favre LOST on Sunday in the championship game, do they give a prize out for getting there…..No!! but I suppose you packer fans want that as another award for an individual achievement? I have news for you, every year 32 teams play and 31 of them do not win a big game along the way that ends their season! Favre lost the big game with another interception, that’s all, now deal with it!!
Do you understand now Dumb Ass!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 8:16 pm
Jim
Once again very well said! ADA, A Dumb Ass…….. I love it. You all hate the fact Brenda Favre choked again!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:22 pm
A.D.H.D. –
Why are you so focussed on sucking on male organs, do want to take a break and come back in a while? C’mon now, grow up you silly faggot, dick’s are for chicks!! Do you have anything intelligent to back up Lorenzo or not? Hang on a second….I was just watching sportscenter… I think Favre just threw another interception, oh no, that was just a clip of the loss to the Giants…..that’s right their season is over!!!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 8:24 pm
Jim, lol, “a dumb ass”, very original of you. At least mr.289 is impressed with your superior intellect.
I agree with you 31 teams do not win the super bowl but admit it favre’s team did better than 29 out of 32 teams. Yes, I am disappointed by favre last performance but hey he got us there in the first place, without him we dont even come close to going to the superbowl.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:31 pm
Where did A.D.D go-
Maybe to cry in his sports illustrated, oh well, there is another record: sports illustrated twice in one year?? oh well, he still threw away the packer season with that interception in overtime!! favre Lost, the season is over!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
“Do you have anything intelligent to back up Lorenzo or not? ”
Yes, read my post at #212.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
A.D.A –
I noticed in your comment #302. that you keep saying “US” and “WE” are you on the packers team… I doubt it, then again, maybe you are because you are at home and no longer in the playoffs… why the we and the us? Are you confused? Do they give an award for being, in your opinion? better than 29 teams, does that somehow make you feel better?
The packers Lost with the league’s leading interception King that’s the facts!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
Jim
I think you might be the best poster on this board. favre sucks!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:43 pm
No Jim, I’m not on the packers, I’m a lawyer. btw did you have a chance to read my post at 212? take a few hours or more if you need it, read it and let tell me if you disagree.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
Mr. 288 are you for real? or Jim is that just you posting under another name?
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
ADD yeah im for real. Jim tells it like it is. If I was like you and wanted Brenda Favre to fuck me up the ass, i would be mad too.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:52 pm
No one is mad Mr. 287, I’m just having some fun with a couple of whack-jobs.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 8:54 pm
Wow A.D.D. -
You really put some work in to justifying your quarterback? Listen, I live right here in Wisconsin, I see it everyday, when the packers are winning like after that pounding they gave the seahawks (another weak n.f.c. team)everything is fine but just after that Giants win I heard talks from a fan at lamebo field of firing Mike McCarthy, by a fan yelling as they were getting ready to interview another fan postgame…that’s the kind of impact brett has on this team… enough is enough,I mean 290 interceptions!! c’mon, I do not care how you justify or enable his poor decision making… the bottom line is, brett lorenzo favre threw an interception that lost a big playoff game again and I doubt any of those q.b.’s you speak of have as many single handed losing performances in big games due to costly turnovers!!!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 8:58 pm
ADD maybe the the Fudge Packers can get rex grosman from the bears, he likes throwing INT’s also
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
Ironic, you live in WI and I live in NYC (but grew in WI). No one wants to fire McCarthy especially favre fans, in fact he has really reeled in favre’s recklessness. You wanted something intelligent in support of favre, I gave you facts/stats and responded with a rant.
cmon Jimbo you can do better than “enough is enough,I mean 290 interceptions!”
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
and you responded with a rant.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:07 pm
A.D.D. -
No kidding, I’m a lawyer as well….
Did someone tell you as child to be a favre fan or was it by choice?
Hey Mr.290 – I think A.D.D. called us a bunch of whack-jobs…wow, is he trying to hurt our feelings?? I feel like I just threw an interception and lost a playoff game or something?!! Ha!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 9:08 pm
funny; I went to UW law, graduated in 2000, you?
Cant help but be a favre/packers fan I was born and raised in WI. Cmon jim you have to admit Mr. 286 is a bit of kiss ass if not whackjob.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
A.D.D.
Sure you gave me stats?? put together by you, trying to justify yourself.. I think, and your lorenzo?!….I gave you something, why am I always caught up repeating myself to these older lawyers, I feel like I’m in court.. are you hearing me dumb-ass? Here it is again….I doubt any of those q.b.’s you speak of have as many single handed losing performances in big games due to costly turnovers!!!!
N.Y. huh? Is that where the Giants are from, because they just beat the packers
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
The Gints are good, and are playing out of their minds. I think the Pats will have their work cut out for them.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:20 pm
Lawyer Jim
My feelings aren’t hurt my team is still in it……
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
“why am I always caught up repeating myself to these older lawyers, I feel like I’m in court”
that’s because there is alot of really bad lawyers in WI, that’s what happens when you dumbshits dont have to take a bar.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
oh god Mr. 285 dont tell me you’re a Pats fan?
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:23 pm
A.D.A. -
Stanford 1999.
Who gives a shit, they obviously did not offer a class for you in understanding how turnovers affect the outcome of a football game, it’s simple math really, if you give the other team the ball more times than they give you the ball than the odds are you will lose….are you starting to get it?? Favre Lost!!
As far as mr.290 goes, do you have anything to add other than Fu$$ all the time?
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 9:26 pm
GO PATS!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
Yah no kidding mr. 290 are you a Patriots fan.. are you spying on me?
Bad lawyers in Wisconsin, maybe so, but I do know this, there is one real bad quarterback that failed to pass the playoff bar!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 9:30 pm
Hey A.D.D. – mr. 290 is a Pats fan, how convenient!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
“there is one real bad quarterback that failed to pass the playoff bar!!”
lol fair enough; Hopefully favre comes back next year and we can continue this civilized exchange then!
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 9:34 pm
does anyone else think jarret bush being a dumbass and trying to pick mcquarters fumble up instead of falling on it was a factor in the loss? not saying favre didnt lose the game…
Jim how old are you? your insults are immature and ignorant. You need to stop going on these little rambling, incoherent, repetitive rants.
Atleast jason and warren have logic behind there posts.
props to ADA and his maturity
“A Dumb ass” according to one of jims classic beat down insults.
now make another post telling me to clean the crusted jizz between my teeth when referring to my post name that is in fact a joke.
keeep em comin jim
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 22, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
Jizzsucker -
No, your not saying he didn’t lose the game but you are making excuses like a typical favre supporter would, how original, I admire you loyalty but c’mon, say it..favre lost the game! and what’s this…props to A.D.D. for his maturity, I believe he started by talking about sucking on male organs in his rant #295 but I’m sure you missed that just like favre missed the guy in the green jersey on the 2nd play in overtime! are you A.D.D.’s girlfriend, he started today with the immature language and then it continued with Mr. 290. Are you trying to recruit help in your losing effort to defend lorenzo?
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
Mr. 290 -
Go pats huh…do you pick your team based on the results of the championship game or are you really a pats fan!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:25 pm
Jim,
see #285 for who began the immaturity.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
I love the Pats and I only like winners!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:34 pm
Mr. 285,
Sounds like you are true loyal fan, through thick and thin right?.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
you will never see MR.Brady choke the way Brenda did!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
A.D.A. -
Agreed but none directed at yourself, you on the other hand started the language with me, again see # 295!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
Like I said Jim is one of the best posters on here!!! He graduated from Standford for God sakes! You can clearly see he is smart man who puts a lot of thought into what he says, unlike the rest of you!!! He has the facts and the rest of you cant handle the TRUTH!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
I have always been loyal to the Pats.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Mr. 284
Even when the packers blew them out in the 1996 superbowl?
btw where’s Standford?
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 11:45 pm
maybe when favre gets back to mississippi he can clear his head and realize that he sucks and will just hang it up!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:46 pm
A.D.A. -
I have to admit, I like the whole Mr. 285 thing, too funny, please explain?
Mr 290/285? -
You say you only like winners, are you 3 years old, funny how we agreed on favre yet you seem to be showing your true band wagon colors on the pats! This site is to meant to comment on favre interception problem, any thoughts or would you prefer to talk about the team you will cheer for this week?
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
Stanford is in Cali. the only thing the Pack blew was each other
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:48 pm
Mr. 290/ now 284.. and counting is deteriorating with every post. Everytime he posts I take one INT away from Favre.
Comment by ADA — January 22, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
My point is Favre will never be the champion these people make him out to be, like Brady is. Or Montana.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
Mr. 290 -
Thanks for the compliment regarding my thoughts and opinions!… do you have any of your own!
Any thoughts on that 1996 superbowl, I mean the pats did not even belong in that game!!
Yah…. where’s staNdford,
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:52 pm
To bad Brendas INT will only go up, soon I will be Mr.320.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
the only thing on that superbowl is that Mr.Brady wasn’t there….enough said
Comment by Mr.290 — January 22, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
A.D.A. -
Thanks for the Mr. 290 countdown explanation? Hey, if it makes you feel good, then go for it? The way I see it everyone is fair game on a site like this……
Hey 290, down with the pats!!
Comment by Jim — January 22, 2008 @ 11:57 pm
hey jim little jimmy…….i got something you can go down on! the Pats rule….. you dont even want to go there with me!!!!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:00 am
I would have to agree on the Brady factor!! how can anyone argue that one!!
mr.290 – are you from out east, being that you are a pats fan??
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 12:00 am
jimmy….. you and ADD lovers now?
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:01 am
Im not from out east, im just a loyal and die hard Boston fan
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:02 am
Oh boy, here we go again with the trash talking, I’m rooting for the giants as of tonight just because I want to see someone knock them off and because of band wagon jumpers like yourself!! You say you have always been a fan, o.k. then answer this, which player was drafted in the 90’s and refered to as a “She” by Bill Parcells?
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 12:05 am
jim i dont mean to come off so harsh, i just love the pats because they are a great team and work hard at there jobs just like I do…..
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:07 am
What the hell are you talking about….”you and ADD lovers now?”
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 12:07 am
i dont jump on any bandwagons BOY!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:09 am
I’m not questioning your work ethic, but I am questioning your attention span! stay on the subject matter, after all, were you not the one to twist a.d.a.’s name into a.d.d….maybe you have A.D.D…..stop getting off the subject!! the topic for this website, again is Lorenzo and his interception problem, again, any thoughts! Hey A.D.A – did you ever have mr.290 as a client?
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 12:13 am
I guess jim must have put ADD in his place, he ran off and hid. maybe he went to mississippi to whisper in brendas’ ear how great he is while he fucks him in the ass and give him a reach around! maybe he will say “that INT was for you ADD” next year when he throws his first one. I wont be surprised if it is on his first pass…..Favre sucks!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 12:17 am
#351 terry glenn, and then got him again in Dallas, go figure.
Hey A.D.A – did you ever have mr.290 as a client?
Jim, the only way I will ever see Mr.283 is if I send him to prison for being a fairweather bird. I would not doubt that last year he was probably a colts, peyton fan because “they are a great team and work hard at there jobs just like I do……”
Comment by ADA — January 23, 2008 @ 8:14 am
WOW.
That whole back and forth thing started at like 5:50pm and went almost continuously (yeah, I went to Pubic school and can’t spell. Anyway…) it started around 5:50pm and was almost continuous untl 12:17AM. Damn!
Marcus, ADA– Yeah, for an old fart Betty had a pretty good year. Either #3 or #4 QB in the League this year…I don’t think Marino could say that his final or next to final year. But he and the Pack “died” this year for just the reason Jason and I said was his weakness…cowboy SHITTE passing that worked when he was young and playing with better players, but that crap doesn’t work now when he’s older and players are lesser. Sorry dudes, but the only way Betty is returning to the Super Bowl is if he takes a page out of John Elway’s career: Get a powerhouse O-line to make PLANET-sized holes for a stud running back and have your QB take a back seat to the RB. Marino couldn’t do it, his ego was too big. Despite what he thinks, the 38 year-old Betty “Mr. INT” Lorenzo Farve cannot pass the pigskin through a two foot hole in the coverage like he could when he was 28. Even you have to admit that.
Heh, of course the INT record will stand because Betty played through the years when the DBs were allowed to mug the receivers and INT’s were easier. But with todays rules where the DB can’t touch the WR’s, look for that INT record to be the only one Farve holds too. Marino’s record of 48 TDs in a season lasted for 20 years. Peyton’s record of 49 TD’s lasted exactly ONE YEAR before being broken by Mr. Brady. So with the new rules, don’t look for Betty to hold anything other then the TD record for a long time.
oh, and…
Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL(1)
Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL(2)
Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL(3)
Brett Farve is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL(4)
Brett Favre is the awesomest, best QB in the NFL(5)
only 45 more to go… me and my big mouth!!! Sorry, I’ll finish them up later, gotta get back to work….
oh, but I can still say:
Farve sucks!
He really, really sucks!!!
(HEH HEH HEH!!!)
Comment by Warren — January 23, 2008 @ 9:00 am
I actually am a big Colts fan too! I have always liked Manning. hes a winner just like me!!!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 23, 2008 @ 11:38 am
Jim, did you say that you can’t make an argument for Brady Vs. Favre? You are the first Packer fan to ever admit that. For that I give you props.
That’s the deal here (as far as I am concerned), so many Pack fans think he is the best QB ever. So to hear you say he may not be is huge IMO.
But really, he is not even close to the top 5 if you had to choose one QB for one big game.
P.S. Do you ever get sick of hearing that his wife had cancer, his mom’s house was destroyed be Katrina, and his dad died a few years ago?
Comment by Action Jackson — January 23, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Mr. 290, you need to change your name to Mr. 316 (career INTS inc. postseason). Or just assume he’s coming back and change it to 340.
Comment by Action Jackson — January 23, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Action Jackson -
I’m Not a packer fan but I certainly appreciate the props!
I’m sick of favre period, he really should leave his personal problems out of his job like you and I and everyone else is expected to do!! Keep it com’n A.J.!!
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
Mr. 290 -
Wow, you think pretty highly of yourself…let’s see, you were a Peyton fan last year and this year you are a Brady fan and you claim to be a winner as well…wow you are a piece of bandwagon trash!!
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 10:47 pm
A.D.A. -
Why did you answer the question for the bandwagon bitch (Mr. 290), I’m willing to bet he had no idea I was talking about her (Terry Glenn)!!
Mr. 290 – which team will you like next season??
Comment by Jim — January 23, 2008 @ 10:53 pm
hey jane……Im not bandwagon trash!! I am loyal to my teams. To bad you dont have the balls to name your team…. that makes you a balless wonder just like Brenda Farse!! I like winners because I am one!!!! Brenda needs to go, his time has been up. AS for your question Jane, I dont need to play your little games…I new the answer of course, but didn’t want to give you the satisfaction…Faggot! Remember I am a die hard PATS fan!!! they kick ass just like my LSU tigers did in college football…. so drop dead BITCH!!
Comment by MR.290 — January 24, 2008 @ 1:17 am
i don’t think mr.290 understands the concept of a fairweather fan…
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 24, 2008 @ 10:02 am
Too funny. I dont think there’s alot of concepts that Mr. 282 does understand.
How about a little disclosure Mr. 281? We know you are an articulate winner who works hard just like the pats and the colts do.
But do tell us more about yourself, and dont leave out the part about your dad beating you with a packer belt.
Comment by ADA — January 24, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
Mackuum…..I do understand the concept, Idiot!!! Like I said and by now all of you realize, I am a winner and only associate myself with winners. Thats why I will never like Brenda Farse! I never got any beating ADD, I give them punk…. Just like my Red Sox did in baseball.. Just like my Celtics are doing in the NBA… All you retards need to get with the program and understand that your in love with a fucking idiot from mississippi!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 24, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
wow mr.290, yeah Favre really must be a loser. Only losers hold the title for winningest quartback in the NFL.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 24, 2008 @ 10:33 pm
Hey 290 -
At first impression you had me thinking you were intellegent with your thoughts on Favre and I need to tell you I agree that brenda sucks!!
Ever since then, you continually splatter your thoughtless diarrhea all around with these ever changing, winning teams that you support when you feel safe about the win loss record they carry!! You are so dumb, you must be one of twins, because not just one person can be this fucking stupid!!
Comment by Jim — January 24, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
maxipad a.k.a. the jizzslurper -
Listen you need to really stop with the individual records thing, like I said, does that really matter for most fans?? No!! I can assure you most packer fans would trade in any individual award for last Sunday’s result to end up as a win!! favre is an interception slinging jackass!!
mr. 290 –
Where did you go “Winner”…. you must be looking at yourself in the mirror…. you worthless bandwagon- hopping, piece of arrogant trash!!
Comment by Jim — January 24, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Damn, this Mr. 290 is almost as annoying as Favre’s Annual “Hold-The-Packers-Hostage-On-Wether-I’m- Going-To-Retire-Or-Not”. ADA, Marcus, I’m betting this is just a teenager along the lines of a Beavis And/Or Butt-Head here. Nobody over 25 is THAT much of a bandwagon jumper.
Comment by Warren Adams — January 25, 2008 @ 12:57 am
Listen here Whitney Adick…… The only thing annoying is Brenda Farse.. Do you understand that? Or are you to much of an IDIOT!!?? I cant help my teams are the cream of the crop! Im a bad ass mother fucker, and so are my teams!! Your lucky Janice I don’t clean your clock, punk, like my team the PATS are going to do to the Gimps!!! Oh byt the way Janice I am very intellegent, I have taken many IQ test’s and scored off the charts. just because you are some backwoods toothless hillbilly, doesn’t mean I am. You must have sucked a mean dick to get through Stanford, you fucking homo!!! I dont jump on bandwagons, never have! I have superior intelect and extreme knowledge of sports, which is obvious!! The only jumping around here should be Whitney off a tall bridge, you dumb fuck!! Im about of this horse shit on here anyhow….al of you are below ME!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 25, 2008 @ 1:18 am
Yep…definetly one of those “tough guy on the internet” teenagers. The jizz-licker (not you Marcus) can’t come up with any non-explitive laced insults nor intelligent conversation beyond “Ugh, my (insert top team of the week) will beat the hell out of you!!!” Poor guy, his parents must really loathe the college football season when they have to keep buying their little boy the latest BC Poll #1 Team hat and shirt. I mean damn, that changed like 8 times this year. And here I thought the Miami Hurricanes/Florida State Seminoles bandwagon jumpers were bad when I was growing up! Shesh!
Comment by Warren — January 25, 2008 @ 8:31 am
Whitney……don’t even go there with me. im done with this site!!!! Your LOSS! not mine… I bring a vault of knowledge to the table which no one will be able to tap into now that I am done with this site!!!!! The only smart one posting is Jen and he isn’t much more than an idiot. If you guys play your cards right I may consider coming back.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 25, 2008 @ 10:16 am
Mr. 280 please, please dont go. You’re brilliant insights, encyclopedic knowledge and extraordinary intelligence provide an invaluable service to this blog. I mean how many people on here have the “superior intelect and extreme knowledge of sports” that you do.
Comment by ADA — January 25, 2008 @ 10:31 am
Okay, Mr. 279 has almost exhausted his entertainment value.
I’ll be the first to admit that Favre shortcomings are often glossed over, he is reckless. But that’s done for two reasons first because he is really good at least a top 10 Qb historically and according to warren (the authority on this site) #3 or 4 this year. And secondly people really like him and who he is. Some people get upset when his personal problems garner attention (#360) and dont like him personally but how about the fact that old Betty established the ‘Brett Favre Fourward Foundation’ which has donated more than $3 million to charities in his home state of Mississippi as well Wisconsin. The Favre Fourward Foundation in 2005 took on an additional cause as a supporter of Hurricane Katrina relief; the effort raised approximately $1 million to assist in the state of Mississippi’s three Gulf Coast counties. And his wife started the Deanna Favre HOPE Foundation to provide assistance to women who are underserved or underinsured in their battle against breast cancer.
I doubt other NFL players (aside from a turkey giveaway)do as much as favre does to help others.
Comment by ADA — January 25, 2008 @ 10:53 am
Good point ADD… I will be the first to point out when someone is right, because I can tell the difference!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 25, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
Jim-
I agree, i myself as a die hard Favre and packer fan WOULD have traded any individual record for a win last sunday. But i was making a point to Mr.290 and his elemantary winning mentality. If he likes winners so much, i don’t know how he can say Favre is a loser when stats dont lie, he is the winningest QB in NFL history. And yes Interception stats don’t lie either he is the interception king. He IS reckless at times, but really, its so exciting to see him just pull that arm back and loft one, Lots of times they are completed for huge gains or touchdowns.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 25, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
A.D.A. -
Well done with the good guy stand on favre…I think it is good he has done something to give back to peole/communities in need!! that being said, favre deserves no sympathy, as he should be judged by most for his football season, not what he does to make up for his mistakes on the playing field! His personal contributions have no affect on what he does or does not do on the for the packers….. the topic at hand here is not how much “people really like him and who he is” as you say, it’s that he is judged by the job he tries to do and that job is quarterback! The job he does, OFTEN times results in the fatal season ending interception that takes down 53 man rosters, not to mention the coaching staff and the pre-programmed packer fans that have been told at some point along the way growing up (ever since the icicle bowl/bart starr days) that if you live in wisconsin you should try and support the packers?!!?
MRS. 290 – -
You seem to drop twice as many I.Q. points as a.d.a. drops interceptions of the betty fuck up grand total each time your mommy gets done taking off your ninja turtles bib following your last breast feeding!! When are you going to grow up? Pick a team and stick with that team through thick or thin….does that register in your brain yet you fucking waiste of band-wagon shit? You said you were done with this sight and done blessing us with your “vault of knowledge”…if that is truly the case then I want to take this opportunity to thank you for the endless supply of stupidity that flows off your tongue in an apparent limitless supply!! I do have an idea for you to try sometime in the next few minutes after reading this, find an expressway nearby, walk out in to trafic and lie down for a while you dumb fuck!!
Comment by Jim — January 25, 2008 @ 11:09 pm
Maxim…. you are spot on in your views about Brenda….well done. Kim, I bet if you died tomorrow everyone around you would feel relief!! I wont stoop to your level by calling you a stupid FUCK! I am much better than that. If anyone needs any advice feel free to ask. your friend Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 26, 2008 @ 1:15 am
No wait guys, Mr.290 does have alot of knowledge. He knows how to pick a team and be a fan.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 26, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
Thanks Mackum…coming from you that means absolutely nothing!!! I would be willing to take you under my wind and try and get your mind right when it comes to Life and sports… It’s your call. Your friend….Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 26, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
I thought you were done with this post mr.290, what brings you back? You proved to us already that you know how to be a fan of a winning team.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 26, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
Jmarcuz…..I know evryone here needs my extreme knowledge of sports and life in general! I just want to help, thats all. Brenda Farse likes to give and so do I. I know Mr.Brady would do it too, because he is a proven winner, just like me!!! If I can save just one retard on here, I would feel good about that. Go PATS!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 26, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
I think it is obvious by know that, just like all My teams, I have the Eye of the Tiger!!!! Thats why I always rise to the top and dominate the competition. I guess it just comes natural to me, so why fight it.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 26, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
Well here you go again MRS.290 -
Is your diaper rash is flarring up again!! Do you mean you like tigger from Winnie the pooh, I bet you like Kanga and Roo also…..good for you? I think someone needs a timeout!! night-night you thumbsucking bedwetter!!
Comment by Jim — January 26, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
yup 290, you are deffinatley a proven winner by dominating the competition on this post. Lets face it guys, 290 has dominated.
Congrats, story of your life.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 27, 2008 @ 10:46 am
Thank you Mackum…. I new you were a classy guy…. unlike Kim, who constantly spews insults! I on the other hand will Not do that. I try not to let my dominance show through, but I can’t help it. It is hard to be me!! By the way Kim, the only sucking going on is you slurping on your boyfriends cock!!! Im starting to wonder if you might be from Mississippi, you dumb fuck!!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 27, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
lets start off with me saying my 388 post was sarcasim.
and you contradicted yourself you said “unlike Kim, who constantly spews insults! I on the other hand will Not do that. I try not to let my dominance show through, but I can’t help it. It is hard to be me!! ”
then RIGHT after that sentence you say “By the way Kim, the only sucking going on is you slurping on your boyfriends cock!!! Im starting to wonder if you might be from Mississippi, you dumb fuck!!!!”
Let us know, are you going to keep blurting insults or not?
Anyways this post is about that great quarterback Brett Favre.
we can make a different post site in honor of 290’s stupidity.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 27, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
Guys, I think its pretty obvious at his point that Mr.277 is spoofing us and having a good laugh at the same time. A person that obtuse cannot exist.
Comment by ADA — January 27, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
ADD I do exist!! Great quarterback? You mean Joe Montanna right? Mackum, I know you think I am a winner! Im starting to like you, I can see my inteligence is starting to rub off on you. One last thing ADD, if anyone attacks me, I have the right to defend myself. Im used to jealous people anyhow……Your friend Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 27, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
Just so you know, from here on out I will act like the PRO that I am!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 27, 2008 @ 7:16 pm
ok and i will fully express my love for the great Brett Favre.
Great men come but once in a life time. Brett Favre comes but once.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 27, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Hey 290 -
You have once again proven your ignorance, if you are in fact spoofing us and laughing at the same time, trust me, we are the one’s laughing you dumb-ass!! I am happy to hear that you will from now on act like a “PRO” and continue your “dominance”……I now know that the only thing we have in common is our thoughts on the KING OF THE INTERCEPTION!! Go have some pop-rocks and a coke, bitch!
Comment by Jim — January 27, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
haha yay 290 is a pro. YOU PUT YOURSELF UP THERE MAN, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 27, 2008 @ 9:02 pm
Kim…..I will not stoop to your level. I am by far to good for that. I am sure that ALL of you realize what a wonderful person I am and that I love my teams no matter what! Once again Tim, I agree that he is the King of the INT. I bet the Whack Pack don’t even win the division!!! They better hope the Bears don’t pick up a decent QB. If the Bears do, they will be a team I keep my eye on! I know winners when I see them!…. your friend Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 27, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
290 -
Who told you that you are wonderful, who told you that you are a winner? I noticed you have been ending your puke posts with “your friend mr. 290″….Who told you that you have friends, you do not in fact have any friends other then that shithead in the mirror!! hey, how did your Celtics do today, or are they not your team anymore??
Comment by Jim — January 27, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
A.D.D. -
I noticed since you were Bitch Slapped @ 380, that you have nothing to say, that’s a good girl! **just a quick note for you** never bring a poodle to a pit-bull fight you stupid fuck!! and to think, I actually thought you would be man enough to admit that you were once again squashed like the n.y. garbage you are….but no, instead you sit in your expensive high – rise rental with your thumb in your ass wishing you could produce some kind of response….favre sucks and you have shown your weakness bitch!! Case Closed!!
Comment by Jim — January 27, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Tammy…..very good post!!! excelent point of view. Oh by the way, if your were hinting that you would like to be my friend, I will think about it. I never said the My Celtics would go undefeated. The Pack better watch out for the Vikings also. If there quarterback gets more experience he will be a force to recon with.
Comment by Mr.290 — January 27, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
290 -
Thanks for the positive feedback, it means so much coming from a 13 year old little girl… isn’t it passed your bed time? I’m sure you can tell that I hint at nothing, I get right to the point and make sense, that’s one of many differences between you and me, dumbshit!! no! I have zero interest in friendship with a mentally chalenged idiot….like I said before, we may agree that bett favre sucks but that is all we will ever agree on!!! did you think anymore about my idea for you to lie down in traffic! Try it!!
Comment by Jim — January 27, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
Aim!!! you better watch yourself! Any chance you may have for riding on my coat tails will be shot! Get back on point, this is a thread about Farse, not about peoples jealousy over me and my high profile status. Grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr.290 — January 28, 2008 @ 8:38 am
Yah 290, you are right about bett, he is the topic at hand and I believe these other idiots are just now starting to understand that he in fact is NOT worth defending!! you on the other hand along with your “high profile status” have been such an inspiration to us all….ha?? suck my ass!!
Comment by Jim — January 28, 2008 @ 10:58 am
Thanks Bim for your kind words. All of your thoughts are cutting edge!! I wish I cud be a neat guy like you….your friend Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 28, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
BRETT FAVRE!!!!!
GREAT MEN COME BUT ONCE IN A LIFETIME, BRETT FAVRE COMES BUT ONCE!
-SUPER BOWL CHAMPION
-NFL ALL TIME PASSING LEADER
-3 TIME MVP
-FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
COMETH THE MOMENT-COMETH THE MAN!
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 28, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
Jim, #399.
There is absolutely no way you graduated from Stanford law, absolutely none. Your writing style reveals a high school education at best. Now go ahead, spew a rant and have the last word if it will make you feel better about being a lying sack of shit.
Comment by ADA — January 28, 2008 @ 7:24 pm
And the other reason I know you’re full of shit is that people with law degrees from Stanford do not live in hillbilly towns an hour outside of green bay (#260). Get a life man, seriously.
Comment by ADA — January 28, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
A.D.D. -
Composure little buddy….composure… wow, you get so upset!! I had no idea that my typing bothered you, obviously you expected a more formal well thought out paper? maybe I should proof-read submit my next comment to you for review, my fault? I would love to see you in court, you rattle much to easily!! Take a deep breath and give me something more than that, you have reduced yourself to the kind of behavior I could only expect from 290! grab a kleenex and admit you were tore up @ 380!! are you o.k. sorry I was so hard on you!!! Ha, you really are a Bitch!!
Comment by Jim — January 28, 2008 @ 9:04 pm
A.D.D. -
Are you going to be o.k…..I mean you and your quarterback have a terrible weakness, it’s o.k. everyone has faults, it’s just, not all of us showcase them online!!
Mercky aka the cockslopper -
Put down the pom-poms take off your skirt and get with it….you forgot:
All time interception leader in n.f.l. history: ** This feat was accomplished in 94 fewer games than George Blanda.
Comment by Jim — January 28, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
Jim-
Correct, this feat was accomplished in fewer games. But if you weren’t such a fucking idiot that tried to act like he knew everything, You would know that Blanda had much less attempts than the Great Brett Favre. Also Blanda played kicker too.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 28, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
ADD and Mackum….great points!! I realy am starting to rub off on you guys! I am so proud!! Stanford??? never mind I wont even go there… keep up the good work eveybody…..your friend Mr.290
Comment by Mr.290 — January 29, 2008 @ 1:14 am
Mickey aka the nutrubber -
I do not know everything but I do know that if Bett chucks it more(you can call that attempts if you like?), it will get picked off more!! The following stats are found below as evidence to that fact, found up the page, way back when this blog started, dumb-ass…and you still do not get it, do you!!
Bett Favre Stats: Total games played: 257; career interceptions thrown: 288. Which gives Bett Favre 1.12 interceptions per game.
George Blanda Stats: Total games played: 340; career interceptions thrown: 277. Which gives Blanda 0.81 interceptions per game.
Yes, Blanda also played kicker. what the fuck does that have to do with your Ignorance or bett’s Interception Crown, huh, tell me……what!!
Comment by Jim — January 29, 2008 @ 1:38 am
little kiddy 290 -
What are you doing up so late, don’t you have school tomorrow? You keep saying “your friend mr. 290″…..Do you have any friends, or is this how you plan to make 1? Grow up kid!! Try not to wet the bed again tonight?
Comment by Jim — January 29, 2008 @ 1:42 am
Relax Jim, no one is upset. I just want to point out that anyone who lies about themselves on anonymous blog has issues.
Comment by ADA — January 29, 2008 @ 10:04 am
Relax A.D.D. -
PLEASE DO NOT BE SO HARD ON YOUSELF…..Truly, I admire the honesty…. so late though? I think most everyone picked up on the fact that you have been lying, thanks for coming clean. There really is no need to address the fact that you clearly have issues, really…. it’s out there for everyone to see! Do not continue to expose your weaknesses! I’m starting to feel sorry for you.
Sincerely.
Comment by Jim — January 29, 2008 @ 11:25 am
wow you must be an idiot Jim. Obviously with Blanda playing kicker for some of those 340 games, so you would have to count the games that he played QB. With Favre playing 257 games at the QB position he obviously has a much higher chance of throwing an interception than a kicker.
do you get what im saying?
By the way im 15, i seem to have more knowledge and maturity than you.
Comment by marcus aka the jizzmopper — January 29, 2008 @ 7:35 pm